de niro said:The cookie monster said:This was all said two years ago yet posters on here were adamant they are professional sportsman and they wouldn't do such a thingde niro said:on the money.
It was the manager who was at fault he's at the helm to motivate them, that was the line they constantly used, now its their fault though........
i didn't. i said at the time we should hoof the lot of them, can't have the tail wagging the dog. i even said they will do it to the next guy and they have.
problem for mancini is the chairman and co came fown on the side of the players, this time pellers is thier own man. lets see how this one pans out.
flb said:de niro said:The cookie monster said:This was all said two years ago yet posters on here were adamant they are professional sportsman and they wouldn't do such a thing
It was the manager who was at fault he's at the helm to motivate them, that was the line they constantly used, now its their fault though........
i didn't. i said at the time we should hoof the lot of them, can't have the tail wagging the dog. i even said they will do it to the next guy and they have.
problem for mancini is the chairman and co came fown on the side of the players, this time pellers is thier own man. lets see how this one pans out.
The trouble is Lord Begiristain has given our most inconsistent players juicy new contracts and he's bought a pile of wank on top of it.
This team needs ripping apart
Keep Joe, Vinny, Zabaleta,Milner, Silva and Aguero possibly Mangala for the future and the fucking rest can go for me.
FromPollockToSilva said:flb said:de niro said:i didn't. i said at the time we should hoof the lot of them, can't have the tail wagging the dog. i even said they will do it to the next guy and they have.
problem for mancini is the chairman and co came fown on the side of the players, this time pellers is thier own man. lets see how this one pans out.
The trouble is Lord Begiristain has given our most inconsistent players juicy new contracts and he's bought a pile of wank on top of it.
This team needs ripping apart
Keep Joe, Vinny, Zabaleta,Milner, Silva and Aguero possibly Mangala for the future and the fucking rest can go for me.
Contracts with lower basic wages and performance-based incentives. Doesn't appear to be motivating too many of the lads this season.
The cookie monster said:This was all said two years ago yet posters on here were adamant they are professional sportsman and they wouldn't do such a thingde niro said:Mister Appointment said:I feel for Pellegrini tonight - could possibly have been his watershed moment as City manager. Lots of tell tale signs.
It's a shame as he's obviously a very good guy and a very good manager. But he will carry the can for that shower of shit.
The problems run deeper than just the manager though. We have some fucking dross in that squad who too often down tools at the first sign of trouble. Scary lack of leadership and urgency.
Thank God for Kun.
on the money.
It was the manager who was at fault he's at the helm to motivate them, that was the line they constantly used, now its their fault though........
Mister Appointment said:The cookie monster said:This was all said two years ago yet posters on here were adamant they are professional sportsman and they wouldn't do such a thingde niro said:on the money.
It was the manager who was at fault he's at the helm to motivate them, that was the line they constantly used, now its their fault though........
A lot of us underestimated just how fickle some of this bunch are. Lets face it, they turned the tap on last season and win the league, and yet they're back to playing in treacle this season.
None of that changes the fact that Mancini's position was untenable though and that he had to go because he was becoming a cancer around the club.
But yeah, with regards the players, I gave them too much credit at that time. The last month's worth of performances like the FA Cup final against Wigan suggest to me that the problems run deeper than just at managerial level as I say in the post that Bill's quoted.
Rammy Blue said:I don't think they've downed tools, I just think they are incapable of being motivated enough to give 100%, and like a cancer it's now affecting confidence etc - best example was how well we played for the first 5 mins yesterday and then as soon as we make the first fuck up the confidence drains and we have a horrendous 20 minute spell.
Rammy Blue said:Mister Appointment said:The cookie monster said:This was all said two years ago yet posters on here were adamant they are professional sportsman and they wouldn't do such a thing
It was the manager who was at fault he's at the helm to motivate them, that was the line they constantly used, now its their fault though........
A lot of us underestimated just how fickle some of this bunch are. Lets face it, they turned the tap on last season and win the league, and yet they're back to playing in treacle this season.
None of that changes the fact that Mancini's position was untenable though and that he had to go because he was becoming a cancer around the club.
But yeah, with regards the players, I gave them too much credit at that time. The last month's worth of performances like the FA Cup final against Wigan suggest to me that the problems run deeper than just at managerial level as I say in the post that Bill's quoted.
Having slept on it, I've woken to the opinion that it mirrors the Mancini situation too much to be a coincidence.
The dressing room must have gone, there is no way that a squad full of players as talented as ours can all be so out of form without it having a direct correlation to problems with the manager.
I don't think they've downed tools, I just think they are incapable of being motivated enough to give 100%, and like a cancer it's now affecting confidence etc - best example was how well we played for the first 5 mins yesterday and then as soon as we make the first fuck up the confidence drains and we have a horrendous 20 minute spell.