Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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mosssideblue said:
BobKowalski said:
mosssideblue said:
I'm always curious when people post things like this. How do you know?

Aside from tidbits you hear it is fairly obvious that in a squad of 25 highly motivated highly paid athletes with differing personalities not everyone will be 'loving' the manager. This applies to every squad and every manager and is just the way it is. There will always be some conflict, differing of opinion, disagreement over playing style, not being appreciated enough (Yaya) or whatever. It's not a big deal even if it is important for some to believe that it's a Garden of Eden behind the walls of the CFA.


So, it 's an assumption and not fact, just so we know

Its more about respect and confidence in the game plan.

Lately the players have lost confidence in the game plan.

Liking the manager isn't going to make you a better player.
 
Mister Appointment said:
Shouldn't have opened this thread. Usual suspects showed themselves up last night as being clueless dickheads.

Same old shite. "Found out" "lost the dressing room" blah blah blah. We've been here three times under Pellegrini and he's ridden every storm out.

People should get used to something. HE won't be going anywhere before the summer of 2016. Bookmark this post. Write it down, I don't give a fuck. But accept it because it is what will happen.

Pellegrini got precisely fuck all wrong yesterday. The players didn't perform, not for the first time, in a domestic cup competition. The manager will carry the can but the explosion of fuckwittery in this thread about how terrible Pellegrini is completely belies the fact he won a double last season, and there's no reason we can't win the title and the CL this season.

Most of the knee jerkers simply judge him on his worst performance completely ignoring the months and months of top performances/results. It's embarrassing and it's predictable. Still we beat Chelsea and they'll all crawl back under their rocks until our next defeat.

Months and months of top performances? bloody hell i must have been in a coma, must be due some serious back pay

Team wins manager good team loses players bad, i am sure this has been done before, well done not getting bored with yourself
 
chicagoblues said:
mosssideblue said:
BobKowalski said:
I find it slightly odd if Txiki can only think of 4 or 5 managers that could manage Man City and 3 of them are ones he has already worked with. What he probably means is there are only 4 or 5 managers he is prepared to work with at Man City. Which does kind of narrow our options.

As for our players needing to love the manager well shocking as it may be not all of the current squad love Pellers. As for not losing their cool remind me again who was it that totally lost the plot with their rant over Sweden and ended up with a touchline ban in the CL? This is not meant as a criticism of Pellers just that I think we would all do better if we didn't indulge in these pantomime caricatures of the manager and players.

The main issue for me as it was last season is the defence and the steady erosion of our defensive organisation. You can see its a concern given the turnover in defensive players and DM in an attempt to solve the problem. Hughes did the same and look at Rodgers at Pool who buys a brand new CB every 6 months. Yet the problem lies more on the training pitch then it does in the players we have. You can get away with it provided you score enough goals to compensate but right now we aren't so our lapses keep biting us in the arse.

I personally think we could have better balance between attack and defence but as I'm not on Txiki's list it ain't going to happen.


I'm always curious when people post things like this. How do you know?
I had an odd cold feeling to see some of our player's body language yesterday. Players like Zaba .Silva ,Kun.. they always chase the lost cause and motivate the team but that spirit was missing from them .
Jet lag or is their more to it? I wonder.

Having suffered jet lag myself I can understand the lethargy that whole team seemed to suffer from yesterday but Pellegrini is not going to bite the hand that feeds him (and us!) by admitting the Abu Dhabi jaunt was a mistake and the travel arrangements a shambles.
What concerned me more was that I couldn't see any evidence that the coaching sessions have addressed our fundamental problems.
Our corners and free kicks were dire. The high defensive line doesn't work against swift counter attacking teams (on their home grounds Hazard, De Maria and Sterling are going to rip us to shreds) and apart from Milner urging the players to lift their game I saw no leadership on the field. Middlesbrough played like Arsenal last week and got the same reward. Only a fool doesn't learn from his mistakes and at the moment we have too many fools at the club.
Was very interested to hear that City have signed up one of our team mascots who played in the last mascot game. Anyone know any more ?
CTID
 
Mister Appointment said:
Shouldn't have opened this thread. Usual suspects showed themselves up last night as being clueless dickheads.

Same old shite. "Found out" "lost the dressing room" blah blah blah. We've been here three times under Pellegrini and he's ridden every storm out.

People should get used to something. HE won't be going anywhere before the summer of 2016. Bookmark this post. Write it down, I don't give a fuck. But accept it because it is what will happen.

Pellegrini got precisely fuck all wrong yesterday. The players didn't perform, not for the first time, in a domestic cup competition. The manager will carry the can but the explosion of fuckwittery in this thread about how terrible Pellegrini is completely belies the fact he won a double last season, and there's no reason we can't win the title and the CL this season.

Most of the knee jerkers simply judge him on his worst performance completely ignoring the months and months of top performances/results. It's embarrassing and it's predictable. Still we beat Chelsea and they'll all crawl back under their rocks until our next defeat.

This season the good performances are far, far outweighed by the bad. He deserves time to sort it and he'll get it, but in terms of on pitch performances this is turning into a very 12/13 season. Poor performance from new signings, lethargy and apathy on the pitch. I think he can sort it out but I thought he had in December and now we've churned out 6 or so dire performances. With each one it makes the turnaround harder.
 
Last time I checked the manager is in charge of the players

If the players don't perform then there's only one person to blame

We've been piss poor all season apart from a handful of good performances

I'd love to know when a knee jerk reactions turns into a common trend, as there seems to be more and more people questioning him every single week
 
without a dream said:
Mister Appointment said:
Shouldn't have opened this thread. Usual suspects showed themselves up last night as being clueless dickheads.

Same old shite. "Found out" "lost the dressing room" blah blah blah. We've been here three times under Pellegrini and he's ridden every storm out.

People should get used to something. HE won't be going anywhere before the summer of 2016. Bookmark this post. Write it down, I don't give a fuck. But accept it because it is what will happen.

Pellegrini got precisely fuck all wrong yesterday. The players didn't perform, not for the first time, in a domestic cup competition. The manager will carry the can but the explosion of fuckwittery in this thread about how terrible Pellegrini is completely belies the fact he won a double last season, and there's no reason we can't win the title and the CL this season.

Most of the knee jerkers simply judge him on his worst performance completely ignoring the months and months of top performances/results. It's embarrassing and it's predictable. Still we beat Chelsea and they'll all crawl back under their rocks until our next defeat.

This season the good performances are far, far outweighed by the bad. He deserves time to sort it and he'll get it, but in terms of on pitch performances this is turning into a very 12/13 season. Poor performance from new signings, lethargy and apathy on the pitch. I think he can sort it out but I thought he had in December and now we've churned out 6 or so dire performances. With each one it makes the turnaround harder.

Fair assessment.

Lets hope we can keep the at least 5 of the 6 sides below us at bay.
 
chris85mcfc said:
Last time I checked the manager is in charge of the players

If the players don't perform then there's only one person to blame

We've been piss poor all season apart from a handful of good performances

I'd love to know when a knee jerk reactions turns into a common trend, as there seems to be more and more people questioning him every single week

If you keep posting the same stuff someone will eventually agree with you
 
mosssideblue said:
BobKowalski said:
mosssideblue said:
I'm always curious when people post things like this. How do you know?

Aside from tidbits you hear it is fairly obvious that in a squad of 25 highly motivated highly paid athletes with differing personalities not everyone will be 'loving' the manager. This applies to every squad and every manager and is just the way it is. There will always be some conflict, differing of opinion, disagreement over playing style, not being appreciated enough (Yaya) or whatever. It's not a big deal even if it is important for some to believe that it's a Garden of Eden behind the walls of the CFA.


So, it 's an assumption and not fact, just so we know

Aside from the tidbits that I hear then yes it's an assumption based on the bleeding obvious. For me it's not a big deal nor surprising or unexpected. Hart had the massive hump with Pellers over being dropped. That doesn't mean it wasn't the right decision or that Hart cannot do a job for City it's just an employee having an issue with his immediate boss. Irrespective of who the manager is you will always get issues with players over the decisions the manager makes.
 
i didnt watch the game because somehow i knew we wouldnt perform. i havent enjoyed the football weve been playing this season.

we're out of the capital one cup. out of the fa cup. through to the last 16 in the cl but lets be honest, we were shit in the group stages. we are shit in the premier league despite being second and trailing chelsea by just 5 points.

weve been pretty much shit all season guys.

its time to wake up and smell the coffee . we need a manager who is a bit more sophisticated.
 
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