Marc-Andre ter Stegen

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daztrueblue91 said:
Joe's ability with the ball at his feet is hugely under rated on here.

There have been many a time where his quick thinking and accurate passing/throwing has set us up for a counter attack.

Also, even when we do tend to lose possession after a goal kick or from the keeper, it tends to be because we are piss poor at winning the second ball. At least 8 times out of 10 Joe will pick out the full back from a kick.

Then we have the issue of piss poor movement. The only outlet he ever has from the long ball is either full backs. No other player can win the ball aerially and the general work rate and movement under Pellegrini's last two seasons has been piss poor. In essence, we are giving Joe zero options other than to hit in long to small players.

Let's see how he copes in a side who will give him numerous options before writing him off. You could have put Neuer, De Gea or Ter Stegen in our side last season and their stats wouldn't have been much superior to Hart's.
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Your first line isn't true, not one bit. Under no pressure he's ok but anybody coming at him results in a punt to nobody and possession given away.
The reason we lose it from a goal kick is because our CF is about 2foot smaller than the CB marking him.
The poor movement argument I don't get either. My seat is on line with the 18 yard box and I spend a lot of time watching Hart and more often than not a pass is there to be made but he doesn't fancy it, then the moments gone.
His throws aren't bad but his passing is nowhere near the standard required for Pep.
 
Machiavelli said:
Seriously? What makes you think Arsenal mate?
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Cech will be getting on for 35 and I think Joe would want to stay in the Prem. He's good enough to play for any CL club but Arsenal probably tick the most boxes for him. Maybe Liverpool at a push but given the choice I think he'd be more inclined to go down south.
 
Pablo1 said:
Your first line isn't true, not one bit. Under no pressure he's ok but anybody coming at him results in a punt to nobody and possession given away.
The reason we lose it from a goal kick is because our CF is about 2foot smaller than the CB marking him.
The poor movement argument I don't get either. My seat is on line with the 18 yard box and I spend a lot of time watching Hart and more often than not a pass is there to be made but he doesn't fancy it, then the moments gone.
His throws aren't bad but his passing is nowhere near the standard required for Pep.
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Agree good post. Joe seems to panic in possession - he rushes around and seems indecisive. He needs to be calmer under pressure and be more decisive. If he could relax and make better decisions he could concentrate on the execution. For all his bravado I think Joe lacks confidence at times.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Might make him better with his feet (: dependency and all that...
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Pablo1 said:
Cech will be getting on for 35 and I think Joe would want to stay in the Prem. He's good enough to play for any CL club but Arsenal probably tick the most boxes for him. Maybe Liverpool at a push but given the choice I think he'd be more inclined to go down south.
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Yeah I suppose it could potentially pan out like that. He'll be fucking broken leaving us.
 
Pablo1 said:
Your first line isn't true, not one bit. Under no pressure he's ok but anybody coming at him results in a punt to nobody and possession given away.
The reason we lose it from a goal kick is because our CF is about 2foot smaller than the CB marking him.
The poor movement argument I don't get either. My seat is on line with the 18 yard box and I spend a lot of time watching Hart and more often than not a pass is there to be made but he doesn't fancy it, then the moments gone.
His throws aren't bad but his passing is nowhere near the standard required for Pep.
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Even when Hart was under pressure and he played a decent pass to the full back/centre back, that player then had very little options and most of the time played it back to Hart who had little choice but to hit it long.

All Joe will be required to do next season is keep the ball ticking. Nothing more. Be an option for the pass and play it quickly to the man in space. As long as he is given options, he will be able to do it.
 
Machiavelli said:
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Yeah I suppose it could potentially pan out like that. He'll be fucking broken leaving us.
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It's just guesswork on my part tbh mate. In a perfect world he'll prove myself and a few others wrong with his footwork and be our number one for the next 5 years.
 
Pablo1 said:
It's just guesswork on my part tbh mate. In a perfect world he'll prove myself and a few others wrong with his footwork and be our number one for the next 5 years.
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I hope so because I'd wager if Pep considers the goal keeper to be as important as is being mentioned, he will be trying to take whoever he signs with him in three years.
 
Barcon said:
I hope so because I'd wager if Pep considers the goal keeper to be as important as is being mentioned, he will be trying to take whoever he signs with him in three years.
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You mean like he took Valdes to Bayern and Neuer to here?

Don't be silly. There will always be a few ball playing goalkeepers in the world to fit Pep's system. No reason to think he could take ours when he leaves, if he even does leave in 3 years.
 
harvo the blue said:
Joe Hart & £12m = John Stones

Ter Steg en or Rui Patricio either will be better with ball at feet.
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I've seen portuguese fans say Patricio is shite with his feet. Have you actually seen him play well with the ball? Or is this just on the rumour in a Portuguese red top today?
 
domalino said:
I've seen portuguese fans say Patricio is shite with his feet. Have you actually seen him play well with the ball? Or is this just on the rumour in a Portuguese red top today?
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I think A Bola are well known bullshiters from Portugal. It's them who sell Gaitan (and beforehands that, Garay) to the rags every fuckin year.
 
domalino said:
I've seen portuguese fans say Patricio is shite with his feet. Have you actually seen him play well with the ball? Or is this just on the rumour in a Portuguese red top today?
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Just think there is something in the Bravo/ Ter Ste gen links & Rui Patricio has been thrown in to get either Barca keeper moving. I honestly think Joe is not Peps number 1 choice & the pressure is on & it showed in France. I love Joe & he has saved us many times but is he the man to take us to the next level??????
 
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