Marc Cucurella

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Legal Alien said:
finding a left footed player to play left back makes sense for this style of play.

Cucarella would seem to be great in this role, but it's looking like the club don't want to take the risk at that price.
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I guess you are right. And it will be good to have a left footed player at LB. It won't guarantee us more goals (I predict a good number of right footed assists by Cancelo for Haaland), but will make us less predictable and more versatile.

Some have decided that Grealish will be better with a left footed LB. They may be right, don't know. But won't be surprised if Grealish's problem is related to a mental block, and not to our LB.
 
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stonerblue said:
That is just 1 gimp on the internet. Nothing more. Dunno why you even bother posting the shit.
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I was hoping someone on here is a professional who can get in touch with him and let him know that writing fifty poems about how Tony Bloom is great and City are shit is very weird behaviour. Didn't fancy telling him myself in case I got a slam poetry response.
 
MarsLlama said:


In all my years seeing embarrassing opposition fans this is the worst. Worse than Goldbridge. Worse than Howson. This is a grown man. Shit 'poetry' too.

Who are these entitled City fans the Brighton fans keep going on about? I haven't seen any. They're imaginary.

Mind you, the idea of a guy with one goal last season scoring a hat-trick against the best defence in the league made me laugh. They're completely deluded about how good Cucurella is.
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These Brighton dummies are so desperate for attention I'm crying
 
Kalimantan said:
From the outside looking in (thanks for having us BHA fans here by the way) there's still one thing I don't understand about this whole saga.

Having read much of this thread, a few things seem clear. You need a new LB/LWB, ideally a left footer, Cancelo very good in that position but can struggle defensively in the big games, you're a very well run club, great scouting, you don't need nor want to take risks in signings, Cucu has been your priority, Pep wants him, you've made profits on player sales this summer, and you don't value him much more than £30-40m. None of which I have reason to dispute.

The question then is WHY was Cucu your first choice? You're Man City, the best team in the country, one of the best in the world, with major ambition to win the Champions League. You have a squad full of players worth in excess of £50m. So why was your top target for the critical LB position, where you have a clear need, and selected by your scouting dept and manager, just a player worth no more than 30-40m? You'd be picking sides with global superstars 1 to 11, except for the average floppy haired guy on the left.

I find that hard to reconcile. It's not a dig, just doesn't quite add up.
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You’re right it’s puzzling.

Could be that he wasn’t or isn’t the top target.

I think we perhaps have a range of targets for any one role with a price target. The team bid up to that target and move on if it doesn’t look like getting done for the ‘right price’.…..

Alternatively, maybe we just felt for the money he was a risk….one cap for Spain, no CL experience, not a guaranteed start….
 
For those people think Cucucrella is not worth 50M.
Cucucrella 2021/22 stats at Brighton:

Defending:
+ Tackle won: 62/88, 1st rank at BHA (McAllister 51, Bissouma 50, Cancelo 54/89)
+ Successful pressures: 201, 1st rank at BHA (McAllister 199, Bissouma 146, Cancelo 119)
+ Block: 72, 1st rank at BHA (Veltman 65, Cancelo 45)
+ Interception: 72, 1st rank at BHA (Veltman 67, Bissouma 65, Cancelo 75)

Attacking (keep in mind Cucucrella played 10 games at LCB, Cancelo always high up the pitch), and playing for BHA not best attacking force in the league as City
+ Chance create: 42 (Cancelo 39)
+ Successful cross: 29 (25,2%), Cancelo 20 (16,1%)
+ Key pass: 43 (Cancelo 39)

BHA bought him at 18M, City bid 30M is a joke, 40M still too low.
 
Zenmanc said:
I'm not defending him but guessing if we signed him- this would have never been unearthed here. Ironic how players who we lose out on due to zero fault of their own go from being potential heroes and saviours to being panned and vilified as soon as it looks like they are not join our side.
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I do remember dearly departed Gus posting this a while back when the Cucurella links started up.
 
alexmcity said:
I guess you are right. And it will be good to have a left footed player at LB. It won't guarantee us more goals (I predict a good number of right footed assists by Cancelo for Haaland), but will make us less predictable and more versatile.

Some have decided that Grealish will be better with a left footed LB. They may he right, don't know. But won't he surprised if Grealish's problem is related to a mental block, and not to our LB.
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I just think that even though our passing and movement won't necessarily change, it was noticeable on Saturday that Haaland is looking to run onto through balls.
If we can do that we need to do it quicker, without worrying about getting the ball onto a players correct foot.

Grealish needs to be more assertive. I want him to play like he did against Real Madrid away, running at defenders and taking shots, he almost scored twice in that game and looked a real threat.
 
Why on earth do people keep posting Cancelo in the team of the year (voted for in January hence Salah winning POTY) at left back to prove their point we don't need Cucurella/AN Other? Anyone with half a brain could see his drop off towards the last couple of months of last season purely due to imo the amount of minutes he had to play, the standard we play at we need capable players to play a large number of games giving us the luxury of not overplaying players
 
Legal Alien said:
I just think that even though our passing and movement won't necessarily change, it was noticeable on Saturday that Haaland is looking to run onto through balls.
If we can do that we need to do it quicker, without worrying about getting the ball onto a players correct foot.

Grealish needs to be more assertive. I want him to play like he did against Real Madrid away, running at defenders and taking shots, he almost scored twice in thst game and looked a real threat.
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Think one game is not enough to draw conclusions about the chemistry between Haaland and the team. My guess is some players are not in form yet and Kevin had an off day. Nevertheless, we created 5 big chances against Liverpool. Normally, taking into account the other chances, that's enough to score 3 goals...
 
blue61 said:
It's not my views I am commenting on. I don't like seeing people give snippets of information in good faith and then if it doesn't happen they are then bullied to a point where they no longer contribute

There is a list of people on here that has happened too. I am for people having different views but not those who only respond with sniping and belittling of others
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Well said
 
DenisLawBackHeel74 said:
You’re right it’s puzzling.

Could be that he wasn’t or isn’t the top target.

I think we perhaps have a range of targets for any one role with a price target. The team bid up to that target and move on if it doesn’t look like getting done for the ‘right price’.…..

Alternatively, maybe we just felt for the money he was a risk….one cap for Spain, no CL experience, not a guaranteed start….
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I am thinking on similar lines....maybe we had a target that we were prepared to spend more on but they are not obtainable at present. We then offer what we believe is a realistic price for Cucurella but that hasn't worked either

This has been a very unusual transfer market where we seem to have an abundance of profit that we are seemingly wanting to retain

It has still been an excellent one for buys and good money for 2 players into their last year of contract

If I recall with Ruben we couldn't do a deal when first asking but the opportunity arrived late in the window. I am sure they are looking at something akin to that now, if we can't get Cucurella.
 
chesterguy said:
The figures from transfer market aren’t right though as they have missed off a number of EDS sales
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And they don't include fees and in the case of Haaland I would think they would be huge, not that I have an issue in that deal.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
Cucuella proved himself to have an excellent first season in the PL. Mendy was great for Monaco but proved himself to be a complete flop for us. I very much doubt we'd be making the same mistake but every signing is a gamble. For whatever reason we have baulked at paying what Brighton want

And considering how much City have made from players sold this summer i doubt they need any donation to make up the shortfall to sign Cuco. I can't get my head round the situation we now find ourselves in going into the new season having sold Zinchenko with no replacement.
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Every deal is a risk whatever the fee, Arsenal have just given us 80m for 2 players, no guarantee they will be good deals, sh1t happens, some transfer failures simply don't add up.

When Mendy signed I would say 99% of our fan base were excited by the signing.
 
I like Cucurella a great deal but those intimating that this has been a debacle cannot be reacting to anything coming from our side. Culling together the limited information from Twitter, he appears to have been a player of interest. We sounded him out and may have agreed personal terms. We made a bid to Brighton and they said no. We made another bid and they so no, here is the price. We said no. I see no way to reach a chaotic conclusion from those events - if we have a price that we won't go beyond, and the seller won't accept it, then we move on. Just because a Twitter warrior is offended by our approach and chooses to write a load of bedroom bile, so what?

We are short at full back and as long as we have an alternative and bring them in, I see no problem whatsoever with our actions. As for Zin, he wasn't a prisoner and chose his time to go. We respected him enough to grant his wish, exactly as we should.
 
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