Marc Cucurella

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Didsbury Dave said:
The only ones in our fans who “hate Txiki” are morons who don’t know the first thing about football. That’s a ridiculous comment.
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Txiki doesn't even negotiate on players that's Omar's domain. We have become such a spoilt fanbase. Saying that though we had exactly that same shit directed at Brian Marwood before Ferran and Txiki arrived.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
The only ones in our fans who “hate Txiki” are morons who don’t know the first thing about football. That’s a ridiculous comment.
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Yeah - I know mate.

It was intended to be tongue in cheek, but clearly that didn’t carry very well - and I retracted it (below) a few hours back.

Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Yeah - you’re probably right mate.

Happy to retract my ‘most of our fans’ to ‘a vocal minority of needy bellends off the internet’
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Although as you can see from all the messages below, it keeps coming back to haunt me - so I might have to go back and delete it from the original post to save the mither!

Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
It was intended to be tongue in cheek (which doesn’t always come across) and I subsequently retracted it in a later post, so I agree with you.

Thanks for the compliment though - and likewise mate. I enjoy your contributions and your sense of humour on here!
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Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Yeah - I covered this in my response to @Stoned Rose mate, but I agree with your take.

My comment wasn’t intended to be entirely serious, and I definitely don’t hate him.

Personally I rate him as one of the best in the game. We’re lucky to have him!
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ancoats said:
City should go back to Brighton with the £50million they want but with a catch, say to Brighton, we will give you the money on one condition ? It's in instalments based on games he plays a season under his contract

so if he signs a 5 years deal and plays 30 games or more in all competitions every season, you get £10million a season, easy to work out 5 years £10million a year equals your £50million, BUT if picks up a long term injury and does not play the 30 games a season, then the price comes down by £5million every time
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The £40 million is a better deal then that for him.

We buy him play for 2 seasons sell him for £30 million and make a £10 million profit.

You have one party not wanting to sell and one wanting to buy and you think a bad deal for the selling club will get this over the line.
 
Bluey91 said:
Txiki doesn't even negotiate on players that's Omar's domain. We have become such a spoilt fanbase. Saying that though we had exactly that same shit directed at Brian Marwood before Ferran and Txiki arrived.
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Unfortunately success breeds spoilt fans, see it on here and social media.
Spoilt fans who write our team off before KO because they know what the team should be above Pep. They think they know how to negotiate transfers because they play Football Manager.
They also seem to tell us all what Pep is thinking. Crazy spoilt bunch.
 
oldhamblue said:
I've never given Txiki's ability a second thought. Support the team

On Brighton: yes their fans are pissed off because we come for a fan favourite. They've been polite in the main on this forum and I wish them well. Their team play good football and if they could find a lethal striker would be top 8. I would also like to see Potter manage England
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Great post but the Potter and England bit let it down.

This is ny fear Potter moves on, not so much England as i think he would rather have club football, but to another club.
 
Charliegull said:
Great post but the Potter and England bit let it down.

This is ny fear Potter moves on, not so much England as i think he would rather have club football, but to another club.
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Can see him at Everton, West Ham or Aston Villa in the future.
 
For us to want him we must rate him and surely the going rate for a squad member of ours has got to be £40 million.

Then given his contract length and Brighton reluctance to sell they have added on an extra £10 million.

I honestly don’t think this is, oh it’s City let’s ask for an extra £10 million they will just pay it (we have a rep of walking away from deals).

It is you overpay because we don’t want to sell and don’t have to or we keep him, either way happy.

I think we messed up going £30 million, I think we thought as we had the player onboard, transfer request we would anchor the bid low, so that £40 million would seem acceptable.

It has not worked and going from £30 - £50 is such a big jump it’s hard to be shown to do it. If we had bid £40 million first I think we would have had a better communication with Brighton and the ability to go up without it effecting badly.

Not seeing loads of clubs saying push up your prices it’s Chelsea.

Our board get a lot right and Haaland must have been a tough deal to do (given everyone wanted him). So my views are simply that and the board will no doubt have further considerations.

Let’s see how we are once the window shuts. I feel we are missing one up front, but can accept it to give Palmer/McAtee (?) chances.

However, defence we are 1, arguably 2 short and so need at least 1 as we always get injuries.
 
Question, what’s everyone’s giddiness about Cucurella? Nobody, and I mean nobody, had heard of him 12 months ago. In fact he’d gone under my radar all last season and I knew nothing about him until this thread. Not one top team in any league we’re after signing him or am I to believe Brighton was always his dream destination over say Turin, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Paris etc etc.
I really don’t get the hype over a potentially half decent player who’s had a half decent season at a very average mid table club. Bar his career highlight of Brightons player of the season, what exactly makes him so special and worthy of £50m?
I suspect it’s more frustration or desperation from fans, to what looks an easy solution to a problem, than his actual stats or ability but I could be wrong.
To command a £50m price tag, equal to what the worlds top LB’s have previously sold for, he must surely have something I’ve missed? Not his one international cap, more a justification for people to hype him so much at world class LB price marks. So can anyone share it so I can understand?
One international cap, one player of the season award and one season in the premier league with an average side…. Help me out guys and gals because I’m missing something clearly.
I’ve no doubt he’d sign and be crafted in to the player Pep wants but he’s far from a finished article and far from a top player currently, he’s nothing special at present and as seen with links today there’s equally good LB’s available (stats wise) that are a fraction of his price. This is why when I read “just pay the extra £10m” I have to scratch my head. We shouldn’t be having to pay £40m let alone £50m for a potential future star.
Not looking to argue, I just genuinely don’t get it and can’t understand the uproar and demands to up our bid other than maybe due to desperation or fear.
 
nmc said:
Can see him at Everton, West Ham or Aston Villa in the future.
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Fat frank i think will be first sacking, Everton a bit toxic at the moment, West Ham, Moyes doing good job, so unless goes to another club like top 6 side, it might be a while before that happens. Fall over Stevie G, could well replace him if it goes tits up, Potter is aa Brummie. Possible Leicester will Rogers stay, looks like they need to raise cash or Smug Eddie at Newcastle but maybe new ownets might go with a big name.
 
Charliegull said:
Fat frank i think will be first sacking, Everton a bit toxic at the moment, West Ham, Moyes doing good job, so unless goes to another club like top 6 side, it might be a while before that happens. Fall over Stevie G, could well replace him if it goes tits up, Potter is aa Brummie. Possible Leicester will Rogers stay, looks like they need to raise cash or Smug Eddie at Newcastle but maybe new ownets might go with a big name.
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England
 
not my fault! said:
Question, what’s everyone’s giddiness about Cucurella? Nobody, and I mean nobody, had heard of him 12 months ago. In fact he’d gone under my radar all last season and I knew nothing about him until this thread. Not one top team in any league we’re after signing him or am I to believe Brighton was always his dream destination over say Turin, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Paris etc etc.
I really don’t get the hype over a potentially half decent player who’s had a half decent season at a very average mid table club. Bar his career highlight of Brightons player of the season, what exactly makes him so special and worthy of £50m?
I suspect it’s more frustration or desperation from fans, to what looks an easy solution to a problem, than his actual stats or ability but I could be wrong.
To command a £50m price tag, equal to what the worlds top LB’s have previously sold for, he must surely have something I’ve missed? Not his one international cap, more a justification for people to hype him so much at world class LB price marks. So can anyone share it so I can understand?
One international cap, one player of the season award and one season in the premier league with an average side…. Help me out guys and gals because I’m missing something clearly.
I’ve no doubt he’d sign and be crafted in to the player Pep wants but he’s far from a finished article and far from a top player currently, he’s nothing special at present and as seen with links today there’s equally good LB’s available (stats wise) that are a fraction of his price. This is why when I read “just pay the extra £10m” I have to scratch my head. We shouldn’t be having to pay £40m let alone £50m for a potential future star.
Not looking to argue, I just genuinely don’t get it and can’t understand the uproar and demands to up our bid other than maybe due to desperation or fear.
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Gvardiol looks better anyway
 
not my fault! said:
Question, what’s everyone’s giddiness about Cucurella? Nobody, and I mean nobody, had heard of him 12 months ago. In fact he’d gone under my radar all last season and I knew nothing about him until this thread. Not one top team in any league we’re after signing him or am I to believe Brighton was always his dream destination over say Turin, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Paris etc etc.
I really don’t get the hype over a potentially half decent player who’s had a half decent season at a very average mid table club. Bar his career highlight of Brightons player of the season, what exactly makes him so special and worthy of £50m?
I suspect it’s more frustration or desperation from fans, to what looks an easy solution to a problem, than his actual stats or ability but I could be wrong.
To command a £50m price tag, equal to what the worlds top LB’s have previously sold for, he must surely have something I’ve missed? Not his one international cap, more a justification for people to hype him so much at world class LB price marks. So can anyone share it so I can understand?
One international cap, one player of the season award and one season in the premier league with an average side…. Help me out guys and gals because I’m missing something clearly.
I’ve no doubt he’d sign and be crafted in to the player Pep wants but he’s far from a finished article and far from a top player currently, he’s nothing special at present and as seen with links today there’s equally good LB’s available (stats wise) that are a fraction of his price. This is why when I read “just pay the extra £10m” I have to scratch my head. We shouldn’t be having to pay £40m let alone £50m for a potential future star.
Not looking to argue, I just genuinely don’t get it and can’t understand the uproar and demands to up our bid other than maybe due to desperation or fear.
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If you don’t think he’s anything special why were we in for him? Having identified him as a suitable player and having shown our hand by selling zinchenko we then low balled it . Now we have to divvy up or walk away which is not the outcome we clearly planned. Either way we I think we have handled it very poorly… Cue the ‘my club right or wrong’ bunch.
 
not my fault! said:
Question, what’s everyone’s giddiness about Cucurella? Nobody, and I mean nobody, had heard of him 12 months ago. In fact he’d gone under my radar all last season and I knew nothing about him until this thread. Not one top team in any league we’re after signing him or am I to believe Brighton was always his dream destination over say Turin, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Paris etc etc.
I really don’t get the hype over a potentially half decent player who’s had a half decent season at a very average mid table club. Bar his career highlight of Brightons player of the season, what exactly makes him so special and worthy of £50m?
I suspect it’s more frustration or desperation from fans, to what looks an easy solution to a problem, than his actual stats or ability but I could be wrong.
To command a £50m price tag, equal to what the worlds top LB’s have previously sold for, he must surely have something I’ve missed? Not his one international cap, more a justification for people to hype him so much at world class LB price marks. So can anyone share it so I can understand?
One international cap, one player of the season award and one season in the premier league with an average side…. Help me out guys and gals because I’m missing something clearly.
I’ve no doubt he’d sign and be crafted in to the player Pep wants but he’s far from a finished article and far from a top player currently, he’s nothing special at present and as seen with links today there’s equally good LB’s available (stats wise) that are a fraction of his price. This is why when I read “just pay the extra £10m” I have to scratch my head. We shouldn’t be having to pay £40m let alone £50m for a potential future star.
Not looking to argue, I just genuinely don’t get it and can’t understand the uproar and demands to up our bid other than maybe due to desperation or fear.
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Pep knew about him and wzs an admirer of him before he came to Brighton.
Villa put a £100m buy out on J G, knowing that they wanted to keep him, only a top 6 club is likelty to pay that, once one of them come calling he is going, with Cucu, Brighton do not wang to sell, they dont have to however once a top 6 sidd comes in for him he is going, Brighton put a high price on his head to try and put thrm off, its work ATM with you how ever Chelsea now have some money, however Tom Tickle, is not an ounce on Pep so i cant see Cucu develping at Chelsea.
Maybe we were thinking United would come in, look at what we wanted think thats not a lot and offered £100m.
 
Fuzzy80 said:
For us to want him we must rate him and surely the going rate for a squad member of ours has got to be £40 million.

Then given his contract length and Brighton reluctance to sell they have added on an extra £10 million.

I honestly don’t think this is, oh it’s City let’s ask for an extra £10 million they will just pay it (we have a rep of walking away from deals).

It is you overpay because we don’t want to sell and don’t have to or we keep him, either way happy.

I think we messed up going £30 million, I think we thought as we had the player onboard, transfer request we would anchor the bid low, so that £40 million would seem acceptable.

It has not worked and going from £30 - £50 is such a big jump it’s hard to be shown to do it. If we had bid £40 million first I think we would have had a better communication with Brighton and the ability to go up without it effecting badly.

Not seeing loads of clubs saying push up your prices it’s Chelsea.

Our board get a lot right and Haaland must have been a tough deal to do (given everyone wanted him). So my views are simply that and the board will no doubt have further considerations.

Let’s see how we are once the window shuts. I feel we are missing one up front, but can accept it to give Palmer/McAtee (?) chances.

However, defence we are 1, arguably 2 short and so need at least 1 as we always get injuries.
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They’ve gotten rid of Mcatee today mate. Thin everywhere.
 
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