McAtee & Delap

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Can you guarantee either will be anywhere near Foden's level?

Delap has hardly played this year and his injury record is reaching RSC levels.

McAtee needs to sign a contract or he will be sold and rightly so.
He is a brilliant talent and looks like he has the attitude to match.People who have watched him develop are only highlighting this.What do you see as his weakness and where is the overreaction?
I think mcatee is the real and will be quality . A loan could be good for him . As for delap I’m not sure how good he is tbh so he could do with a loan . Leeds would be good for both .
 
both of these sentences are wildly untrue

OK cool. Can't wait to see Guidetti, Razak, Gomes, Rekik, Lopes, Garcia, Evans, Celina, Angelino, Humprheys, Barker, Roberts, Tosin, Maffeo, Diaz, Nmecha, Muric, Poveda, the other Nmecha, Harwood-Bellis, Doyle, Porro, Moreno, Herrera, Stefanovic, Bazunu, Smith, Huws, Glendon, Rogers, Itakura, Ambrose, Brooks, Nimley, and Jason Denayer break into the first team.

Oh but there was an attacking mid that we bought once who we emergency converted to a left back 5 years ago so I guess that means we have loads of people who go out on loan and come back in to the first team. Like you know, that guy. And that other guy. And the bloke, you know the one.
 
Loans are the end of your City career. Once you're out, you never get back in.

And fans are madly overrating McAtee

I agree (broadly) with the first sentence. Nothing is ever a permanent rule though.

Second sentence, not so much. I don't know which fans you're referring to, so I can't accurately counter that, but I do personally think McAtee is a very special young talent capable of great things. I think he's better than absolutely loads of young attacking talent we've had over the years. Foden level? Maybe not, but easily as naturally gifted as Palmer, and I think Pep is spot on to have him around the team.

Edit - as an aside, if I recall correctly, I swear you were a big Manu Garcia fan. I seem to remember you thinking he could be world class. As a comparison, I think McAtee is much better at the same age. By some way. Garcia had lovely technique but rarely affected games. McAtee had that, but tonnes of goals and assists. He's incredibly gifted.
 
OK cool. Can't wait to see Guidetti, Razak, Gomes, Rekik, Lopes, Garcia, Evans, Celina, Angelino, Humprheys, Barker, Roberts, Tosin, Maffeo, Diaz, Nmecha, Muric, Poveda, the other Nmecha, Harwood-Bellis, Doyle, Porro, Moreno, Herrera, Stefanovic, Bazunu, Smith, Huws, Glendon, Rogers, Itakura, Ambrose, Brooks, Nimley, and Jason Denayer break into the first team.

Oh but there was an attacking mid that we bought once who we emergency converted to a left back 5 years ago so I guess that means we have loads of people who go out on loan and come back in to the first team. Like you know, that guy. And that other guy. And the bloke, you know the one.
Some great names. The Club top to bottom now have a defined style that matches the first team and some stability makes the pathway a bit more obvious than some of those we had to lose while making up the ground we wanted/needed too.
 
Players leaving? - we must be top of the league at the expense of the red shite again. I'm sure tomorrow's rumours will be another ffp investigation, pep leaving etc. Since and repeat, as night follows day.
 
Second sentence, not so much. I don't know which fans you're referring to, so I can't accurately counter that, but I do personally think McAtee is a very special young talent capable of great things. I think he's better than absolutely loads of young attacking talent we've had over the years. Foden level? Maybe not, but easily as naturally gifted as Palmer, and I think Pep is spot on to have him around the team.

That's vaguely where I rate him. There's this idea I keep reading that he's "the next David Silva" and a guaranteed future first team player and he's just not that for me. He's a promising young player who could go into the squad or could end up at Southampton in 3 years. But I'm around that with Palmer too though I think he's ahead of McAtee. There's a long way to go for both of them.

Pep has a way of making young players look better than they are because he's so systematic. I remember after he left Barca, there were a ton of next big things that looked half the player that they did when Pep was starting to give them minutes.
 
That's vaguely where I rate him. There's this idea I keep reading that he's "the next David Silva" and a guaranteed future first team player and he's just not that for me. He's a promising young player who could go into the squad or could end up at Southampton in 3 years. But I'm around that with Palmer too though I think he's ahead of McAtee. There's a long way to go for both of them.

Pep has a way of making young players look better than they are because he's so systematic. I remember after he left Barca, there were a ton of next big things that looked half the player that they did when Pep was starting to give them minutes.
McAtee has the all important and continental-style natural ‘pausa’ quality which creates space wherever he is on the field, which is extremely rare for a youngster and puts him above 99% of prospects.
He has miles more natural talent than the likes of Gilmour, Gallagher etc who are more traditional, busy British players.
But is is as much about luck,timing and opportunity as it is about talent
 
I think mcatee is the real and will be quality . A loan could be good for him . As for delap I’m not sure how good he is tbh so he could do with a loan . Leeds would be good for both .
McAtee is without a doubt a seriously good prospect but the fact remains he has and at this time will not sign a contract extension.

It puts the club and his future with us in a serious position.
 
No one is near fodens level. He’s a once in a generation player. If your expecting all youth players to have be as good, no one will make it
Time will tell, things change very quickly in football, Foden without doubt is an incredible talent, but he also appears to have a possible off the pitch issues which could damage his football, hopefully he learns quickly and goes onto be one of the greats.
 
No one is near fodens level. He’s a once in a generation player. If your expecting all youth players to have be as good, no one will make it

Yep. Worth pointing out that 80%, if not 90% or more, of our squad were probably not Foden's level either as academy prospects. Mahrez was hardly some wonderkid. He took a slow route to the top, but you'd be pretty happy if your academy produced a Premier League POTY £60m winger, wouldn't you? A step below Foden's potential, maybe, but still fucking brilliant.
 
Time will tell, things change very quickly in football, Foden without doubt is an incredible talent, but he also appears to have a possible off the pitch issues which could damage his football, hopefully he learns quickly and goes onto be one of the greats.
The lad's 21 - I'm reasonably sure the club, and hopefully his parents, are showing him videos of Gazzas career on repeat.
There's a concern with him and Grealish together though for sure - chaperones may be in order sadly
 
As for that huge list of names, wonder how many of them have international caps, they may not have made it at City but they certainly have a career in football, so again a bit weird to use it to have a pop at people who thought they might have made it at City, some people are glass full rather than empty types.

Plus it hardly harms anybody if some people want them to make it at the end of the day, people aren't stupid and know that the vast majority will not but it doesn't stop you from hoping that one day we may field a team filled mainly with homegrown players.
 
The lad's 21 - I'm reasonably sure the club, and hopefully his parents, are showing him videos of Gazzas career on repeat.
There's a concern with him and Grealish together though for sure - chaperones may be in order sadly
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That's what people are seeing
 
McAtee reminds me of Paul Scholes movement wise and has all of the ability, hope he signs a new contract it would be a shame to lose him before we see the best of him, Delap? where is he, i had him down for a full season in the first team squad, and getting plenty of minutes so we could see if he can adapt.
 
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