Media Thread - 2021/22

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paulchapo said:
If the rags or the never guilty had won like we did yesterday you wouldn't have hardly heard a peep. It would have been "That's what champions do" and "Ruthless Man Utd/Liverpool grind out the sort of result that wins you titles."
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To be fair, MOTD did say that after we got the second, about that’s what champions do.
 
paulchapo said:
Salah goes down far more easily than that, remember his tumble when Dias touched his arm?
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And the media never even use bland words like soft penalty let alone words like cheat.
One big Arsenal player went down like a log yesterday when one of our little players placed his palm on the big blokes shoulder. The way he was holding his shoulder you would have thought he had has a karate chop from a black belt.
Cheating to get an advantage is becoming acceptable in many walks of life nowadays.
 
Academica said:
I think the problem with VAR at the moment is that the people who are making the decisions are not the referees. If the ref was asked to review the Arsenal penalty would definitely have been given ( that's why the media are saying he should of been asked to go to the pitch side monitor). What should happen is if the referee is not sure of a decision it should be his decision to review. At the moment everybody knows as soon as the VAR people ask the referee the review the decision is going to be changed. VAR should only be an additional aid to give the referee a chance to have another look at something he think he may have missed and not someone in his ear reffing the game.
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exactly . should be the ref who asks for review like in rugby and also ask what angles he wants not what they decide to show him and also have this on the screen and hear the comms . why should you pay a fortune for tickets and not have any idea what is going on
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That’s fair comment, but I reserve the right to push back against the seemingly relentless Americanisation of our native spelling, especially on this board.
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I think you'll find it was another thing the Romans did for us natives. Color is Latin, not American.
 
hammocity said:
I played in my School Team (Hartshead) one of the last game’s of the 73/74 season, last minute against Blessed Phillip Howard in Glossop, 1-0 down I bladdered it over the bar from the six yard line, cost us the league, I’m reminded about it 47 years later, I piss on 44 years :-).
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Damn. I've not thought about Blessed Phillip Howard for years. Went out with a few girls from there when I was 16-17. Absolute filth. God bless those rebelious Catholic ladies ;-)
 
Academica said:
If the ref was asked to review the Arsenal penalty would definitely have been given
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The reason the ref wasn't called to the monitor was because there was no definitive camera angle, I saw two replays from cameras behind the goal, one looked like a definite pen, the other a clean tackle. In those situations the on-field decision has to stand.
 
platty7 said:
exactly . should be the ref who asks for review like in rugby and also ask what angles he wants not what they decide to show him and also have this on the screen and hear the comms . why should you pay a fortune for tickets and not have any idea what is going on
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It's VAR informing the referee that he's potentially missed an incident or part of an incident that could affect the decision he made. It can't work the other way round unless he reviews 1o's of decisions every match and, even then, VAR would still have to alert him to possible incidents that he'd missed completely.
 
Reading through some of the ridiculous comments on social media about yesterday's game, City as a club and the apparent demise of the Premier League it's clear that they're are both too many people employed in the media relating to football and those that aren't have too much free time at this time of the year to spout their shit.
I've read things such as saying Attwell deliberately blocked Martinelli's sight of goal after Ake's goal line clearance "...what was the ref doing in the box anyway...?" - as if it's evidence of City paying off refs (!), a raft of comments from Dippers about sportswashing, cheating, unlimited resources, soulless club etc. etc. Journos saying the PL has lost it's credibility "if it allows teams to win like City did yesterday..." - then comes the responses summed up as "they don't need any help with their squad".
I seriously worry about the mental health of these other fans - they really need to take a step back and get things in perspective. If City winning yesterday - and we weren't at our best and Arsenal were much the better team for the first half - winds them up to that extent then they have issues that go beyond watching football.
 
Bozzie said:
But isn't that exactly what happened yesterday? Atwell believed Ederson put the ball out fairly for a corner, VAR will have known that whilst they were reviewing it, having reviewed it they decided that there was nothing 'clear and obvious' to suggest Atwell reviewed it on the monitor. With the Silva incident, VAR will have established that Atwell didn't see the shirt pull in addition to the contact with Xhaka's leg. On that basis they've suggested Atwell go and review it on the monitor which he did, saw the extent of the foul and awarded the penalty. VAR only sends the ref to review incidents they know he's missed, they have the benefit of replays and so it's logical that most reviewed decisions will be changed.
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Incidents I have seen in rugby the referee will ask VAR ( ref miked up) to have look at an incident such as a try. VAR then give their opinion, then the referee will look at the monitor and make is own decision, even if it means going against VAR. In the premier league once VAR as asked the referee to look at the incident again everyone knows the ref is going along with VAR. I think everyone agrees some of the decisions given by VAR are an absolute joke. I think the big decisions were correct yesterday, but on the possible Arsenal penalty if the ref was fitted with a mike and said to VAR just going to have another look at that, he then goes to the monitor and says don't think is was a penalty or I think it was. Then everybody would know what was going on and it would be the referee making the decision. If we could trust the on field ref to make the right decision is another matter.
 
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