Middle East Conflict

WestGorton said:
I just hope some calm can prevail. I reckon the vast majority of both "sides" would want that. Somebody must grow a pair and decry the killing from both sides.
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Nobody would listen at the moment. Anger and hatred is dominating the narrative on both sides.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Where have you been for the last 7 years? Missile after missile fired into isreal from Gaza. Only a very exprnsive anti missile system stops Isreali cities and settlements burning.
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Like the one that had been deployed last Saturday?

The only thing that will give the Israelis a peaceful existence is a just and equitable settlement for the Palestinians.
They need to do this now, while they can from a position of strength.
Power, like wealth, is ephemeral and history forgives no one.
The power balance will not always be what it is now.

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
 
Lavinda Past said:
They never will. It's a hopeless situation.
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It looks that way, but once the world starts paying attention things might change, in many ways this could be a cathartic moment

The problem is the US ignored, put their fingers in their ears and hoped it would go away, but like a volcano it’s erupted again and 1000s are dead on both sides, perhaps they will pay attention now

The corrupt and ineffective PA needs to go as well, there needs to be younger leadership for Palestinians, leadership with vision not locked into the past
 
Ducado said:
It looks that way, but once the world starts paying attention things might change, in many ways this could be a cathartic moment

The problem is the US ignored, put their fingers in their ears and hoped it would go away, but like a volcano it’s erupted again and 1000s are dead on both sides, perhaps they will pay attention now

The corrupt and ineffective PA needs to go as well, there needs to be younger leadership for Palestinians, leadership with vision not locked into the past
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We can but hope mate.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
They won't do that because within a generation the Arab Muslim population would have a clear majority and Israel is no longer the Jewish state.
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I agree with you.
Therefore we can only look on as the great wheel of history turns and men and nations repeat mistakes of old and end up with the same predictable results.
We never seem to learn.
 
Ducado said:
It looks that way, but once the world starts paying attention things might change, in many ways this could be a cathartic moment

The problem is the US ignored, put their fingers in their ears and hoped it would go away, but like a volcano it’s erupted again and 1000s are dead on both sides, perhaps they will pay attention now

The corrupt and ineffective PA needs to go as well, there needs to be younger leadership for Palestinians, leadership with vision not locked into the past
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I don't think the Americans care as long as their strategic interest is served.
 
WestGorton said:
I just hope some calm can prevail. I reckon the vast majority of both "sides" would want that. Somebody must grow a pair and decry the killing from both sides.
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Basic humanity seems to have gone out the window I'm afraid, it's all about who's right and who's wrong and taking sides between a right wing oppressive regime and a terrorist organisation that hasnt allowed an election in 17 years. Anyone who attempts to decry the killings will be accused of supporting one of those sides.
 
I’m been city fan all my life more then 50 years every day city is my life
True bad and glory , stock away , York Halifax .
Today for the first time in my life I’m ashamed to be city fan
 
WestGorton said:
I just hope some calm can prevail. I reckon the vast majority of both "sides" would want that. Somebody must grow a pair and decry the killing from both sides.
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It's not going to happen mate. I listened to the sitrep podcast before, forces news. And they played a clip of an Israeli general talking, basically the Israeli goal is to whipe out Hamas, and make sure they can never rule in Gaza again. I have a terrible feeling that this is going to escalate big time across the region. Countless civilians will die, and our government had better not get us involved in this mess, other than for humanitarian aid.
 
Only palace and Chelsea say that they feeling whith the evil hamas
The silence of the f a
And my team ( ya I know afraid of Arab money)
 
Hamas deserve every bit of condemnation they get, but she's right. Israel as usual are showing no restraint. Russia, quite rightly, are condemned for attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure. In this case context doesn't matter, war crimes are war crimes. I've no doubt Hamas leaders would be prosecuted for their crimes if they made it out of the other side of this, but will Israeli leaders be prosecuted for theirs? I think we all know the answer.
 
Irwell said:
Hamas deserve every bit of condemnation they get, but she's right. Israel as usual are showing no restraint. Russia, quite rightly, are condemned for attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure. In this case context doesn't matter, war crimes are war crimes. I've no doubt Hamas leaders would be prosecuted for their crimes if they made it out of the other side of this, but will Israeli leaders be prosecuted for theirs? I think we all know the answer.
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When were Russia being condemned as much as Isreal are?
Not by Amnesty or many left of centre organisations who are shouting from the rooftops about Isreal and that's for sure.
 
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