Middle East Conflict

Vic said:
When they've killed the top three Hamas leaders, they won't know who the top three Hamas leaders are.
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From Haaretz. An opinion.

"For over a decade, Netanyahu has lent a hand, in various ways, to the growing military and political power of Hamas. Netanyahu is the one who turned Hamas from a terror organization with few resources into a semi-state body."

 

Militant Rocket Hit Base Linked to Israeli Nuclear Missile Program​

A Times visual analysis found that a rocket launched from Gaza on Oct. 7 hit an Israeli military base believed to house nuclear-capable missiles, although it’s likely they were not in danger.

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Militant Rocket Hit Base Linked to Israeli Nuclear Missile Program

A Times visual analysis found that a rocket launched from Gaza on Oct. 7 hit an Israeli military base believed to house nuclear-capable missiles, although it’s likely they were not in danger.
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This topic shows us all why humanity is fucked.

A group of people were given some land, because of a terrible injustice they’d suffered. In accordance with what they’d suffered for centuries. That land was located somewhere they were historically connected to. It wasn’t at all fertile, and it was sparsely populated; but because of that injustice, nobody really thought about the indigenous people. They were not a core consideration.

And then when the land was given to these people, that group weren’t at all welcome in that region, and nor were they especially nice to their neighbours.

Everyone was cunty to each other.

The following few decades were marked by incredibly grotesque brutality. On both sides.

Two genuine victims in all that. And they were still fucking horrible to each other.

Over relatively worthless land.

Think what it will be like when real resources are diminishing.

We are completely fucked as a species.

We are all too entitled.

Myself included. I am very much part of the problem.

We are wired wrong.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
This topic shows us all why humanity is fucked.

A group of people were given some land, because of a terrible injustice they’d suffered. In accordance with what they’d suffered for centuries. That land was located somewhere they were historically connected to. It wasn’t at all fertile, and it was sparsely populated; but because of that injustice, nobody really thought about the indigenous people. They were not a core consideration.

And then when the land was given to these people, that group weren’t at all welcome in that region, and nor were they especially nice to their neighbours.

Everyone was cunty to each other.

The following few decades were marked by incredibly grotesque brutality. On both sides.

Two genuine victims in all that. And they were still fucking horrible to each other.

Over relatively worthless land.

Think what it will be like when real resources are diminishing.

We are completely fucked as a species.

We are all too entitled.

Myself included. I am very much part of the problem.

We are wired wrong.
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It was not worthless land, nor that "sparsely populated", nor infertile. (Settlers are destroying ancient olive groves.) It was perfectly sustainable. If it was that bad, G-d wouldn't have called it a land flowing with milk and honey.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
G-d doesn’t exist, mate.
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G-d disagrees, mate.

Ged+Brannan.jpg
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
This topic shows us all why humanity is fucked.

A group of people were given some land, because of a terrible injustice they’d suffered. In accordance with what they’d suffered for centuries. That land was located somewhere they were historically connected to. It wasn’t at all fertile, and it was sparsely populated; but because of that injustice, nobody really thought about the indigenous people. They were not a core consideration.

And then when the land was given to these people, that group weren’t at all welcome in that region, and nor were they especially nice to their neighbours.

Everyone was cunty to each other.

The following few decades were marked by incredibly grotesque brutality. On both sides.

Two genuine victims in all that. And they were still fucking horrible to each other.

Over relatively worthless land.

Think what it will be like when real resources are diminishing.

We are completely fucked as a species.

We are all too entitled.

Myself included. I am very much part of the problem.

We are wired wrong.
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Not all, mate. As you have shown, there is compassion and real understanding of what is right and wrong.

That’s why so many feel so guilty, as their conscience just cannot handle what is being allowed to happen.
 
Vic said:
It was not worthless land, nor that "sparsely populated", nor infertile. (Settlers are destroying ancient olive groves.) It was perfectly sustainable. If it was that bad, G-d wouldn't have called it a land flowing with milk and honey.
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The post you have quoted demonstrates the effectiveness of propaganda. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, and not just believed by the plebs or the dregs but by the liberal bourgeoisie.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
The post you have quoted demonstrates the effectiveness of propaganda. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, and not just believed by the plebs or the dregs but by the liberal bourgeoisie.
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I think some of the early Zionists really did believe they were a people without a land going to a land without people. Then they visited and found out it wasn't "empty", but assumed with a bit of Jewish enterprise they could improve the land to everyone's benefit. Others realised that settler colonialism would be opposed.

I don't know who is meant by the liberal bourgeoisie (or when).
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
This topic shows us all why humanity is fucked.

A group of people were given some land, because of a terrible injustice they’d suffered. In accordance with what they’d suffered for centuries. That land was located somewhere they were historically connected to. It wasn’t at all fertile, and it was sparsely populated; but because of that injustice, nobody really thought about the indigenous people. They were not a core consideration.

And then when the land was given to these people, that group weren’t at all welcome in that region, and nor were they especially nice to their neighbours.

Everyone was cunty to each other.

The following few decades were marked by incredibly grotesque brutality. On both sides.

Two genuine victims in all that. And they were still fucking horrible to each other.

Over relatively worthless land.

Think what it will be like when real resources are diminishing.

We are completely fucked as a species.

We are all too entitled.

Myself included. I am very much part of the problem.

We are wired wrong.
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Palestine wasn’t barren land in the late 1800s. The Palestinians, and this was the major Arab with Jews minority, were building from libraries to schools, from the modern train and railway by Chemin Ottoman and then Deutsche bank in the 1890s, to the mediterranean and far east import/export trade.

Palestine is far from a worthless land. Rather it is one of the few land before B.C that had proper architecture and high population. Richard the Lionheart of the Crusades conquerors and Salah ad-Din of having controlled Palestine were agreeing peace treaty. But even prior to King Richard, and any Byzatine attacks, the Palestine managed by Salah ad-Din was in favour of the Palestine Arabs, Palestine Christians and Palestine Jew as a harmonised community, no major issues against one of the Abrahamic religions.
 
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