Netherlands v England - Wed 10th July, 20:00 | Euro 2024 Semi-Final

[Franny 1234]

3 blokes from work have just clocked out for the day and are off to town for 1pm. I don’t think they ever go out. Ever.

Fucking happy clappers. I hope they get bladdered and miss it.

You sound jealous LOL

 

[SebastianBlue]

Oh heck, I had forgotten to change my City Calendar from June to July...... I just did and of course July's player is Nathan Ake......is this a bad omen. Have I jinxed the England squad, will I get vilified if we lose?

I think I might hibernate for the rest of the tournament. :-) :-(

Quick, change it back!

 

[willipp]

Waistcoat will have to go back to the drawing board.

Loves going backwards so shouldn’t be an issue.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Think Shaw will come in. And hopefully that helps Phil.

Apparently Trippier is set to start.

I would say that could mean he is moved to his proper side with Shaw coming in on the left…

But this is Southgate, so probably not.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

You sound jealous LOL

I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than sit in a pub when England are playing. Hot pins full of rust.

 

[Magicpole]

You can talk about us getting a favourable decision all you like but we were in the World Cup Final and the score stood at 2-2. It was going to go either way and by a poor decision, it went our way.

If you want to talk about luck - we had one of the most ridiculous goals given against us in the 1986 World Cup quarter final, we would've played in another World Cup Final in 1990 if we had won a penalty shoot out, we would've been in another Euros Final in 1996 if we had won a penalty shoot out, we were knocked out of the 1998 World Cup on penalties, we had a freak goal scored against us in the quarter final of the 2002 World Cup against one of the best Brazil teams since 1982, in 2004, we were ripping up the Euros tournament when Wayne Rooney was injured - we went on the lose another penalty shootout, in 2008 we were beaten in the World Cup Quarter Final in yet another penalty shootout, in Euro 2012 we were shit but were put out in the quarter finals by Italy in guess what - another penalty shootout, in 2021 we got to the Euros final and were beaten by Italy in a penalty shootout.

If countless England managers and coaches had been given the brains to take penalty practice more seriously, we could easily have been in an extra World Cup Final, an extra World Cup semi final, an extra World Cup quarter final, won a European Championship, been in another Euros final on home soil, and been in an extra two Euros semi finals.

Luck goes two ways and we've had a fuck load go against us that has more than compensated for the linesman in 1966 - in a game that finished 4-2 anyway.

France ended up on the wrong side of the draw because they finished second in their group. Had they won it, they'd have played Turkey and then Holland and had they beat those two, England would've been playing France tonight. It isn't England's fault that we won our group but France didn't win theirs.

I do believe that whoever plays Spain is likely to get a good beating but it's a final and as pointed out on here many times, finals can be weird occasions. If finals always went the way of the favourites, City would be two FA Cups up, United and Wigan would be one down, Liverpool would have another, Wimbledon wouldn't have one and the countless more examples that are littered throughout the history of football.

Scotland and England not being at the races ability wise - well that can hardly be held as a comparison. English players repeatedly get to and win Champions League finals at club level and have recently developed a habit of reaching semi finals in International Football. We can't be drawing shit teams in every tournament, we are drawing and beating teams who have reached quarter finals. In the last Euros, we beat Germany at Wembley.

Honestly - I've never really been bothered about Scotland but this summer, you've turned into a load of bitches, moaning about everything. "England think they're better than they are" - no we don't, we know we're shit but expect better. "England's fans sing about wars" - your national anthem is about a 700 year old battle. "England have lucky draws" - it's because we're better than you. And to top it off, the chant befitting the scousers - "No Scotland, No Party" - well the tournaments between 1998 and 2018 were just fine and dandy without you skirt wearing fuckers turning up for your customary week and a half.

You win champions league finals because you have the world’s better players. The majority not English. I never mentioned that shitty infantile song about the RAF. But now that you mention it, it’s fucking classless.

You have done brilliantly for a very limited team. No question about that. My point is if you met anyone good your teams arses would be on their couch. You need to know that, if you don’t you know fuck all about football.

 

[RayCTID]

Trippier is the better bet as Shaw hasn't played any meaningful football since February.

 

[Lauz9888]

Trippier is the better bet as Shaw hasn't played any meaningful football since February.

Shaw also might not have 90 mins in him.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Shaw also has 90 donuts in him

Indeed.

 

[No.8]

You win champions league finals because you have the world’s better players. The majority not English. I never mentioned that shitty infantile song about the RAF. But now that you mention it, it’s fucking classless.

You have done brilliantly for a very limited team. No question about that. My point is if you met anyone good your teams arses would be on their couch. You need to know that, if you don’t you know fuck all about football.

Must be breaking your wee heart cheering on the Orange men tonight : ))))))))

My only complaint about the ‘RAF song’ is the words are ‘RAF from Britain’ not ‘RAF from England’

Little time for International football but England , under Southgate, have a great tournament record despite not being overly exciting. They can only beat who’s in front of them.

Im expecting them to win tonight and then against Spain anything could happen. Unbelievable to think Southgate could be the first British manager to get his national team to a final in a foreign land. Could become the most successful national manager in British footballing history. Hahaha… Gareth Southgate!! Incredible and good luck to him

 

[supercity88]

Trippier is the better bet as Shaw hasn't played any meaningful football since February.

I'm torn on this. Bringing him on when you have fewer substitutions is quite risky. Starting him gives you the ability to take him off if you need to, and plan for it potentially. He helps the whole side have more balance by giving us the threat down the left, which unlocks the middle of the park as well.

I would expect Southgate to stick with Trippier though.

I also think Trippier's been fucking woeful. He's not a left back granted, but when he is attacked he's usually beaten and when he has the ball as a professional he should be able to use his left foot enough to pass the ball down the line and open things up.

But that's how it goes with International football. The defenders get an easy ride and the attacking players get slaughtered or overly praised.

 

[Franny 1234]

I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than sit in a pub when England are playing. Hot pins full of rust.

Strong words but I feel your pain.

 

[RayCTID]

I'm torn on this. Bringing him on when you have fewer substitutions is quite risky. Starting him gives you the ability to take him off if you need to, and plan for it potentially. He helps the whole side have more balance by giving us the threat down the left, which unlocks the middle of the park as well.

I would expect Southgate to stick with Trippier though.

I also think Trippier's been fucking woeful. He's not a left back granted, but when he is attacked he's usually beaten and when he has the ball as a professional he should be able to use his left foot enough to pass the ball down the line and open things up.

But that's how it goes with International football. The defenders get an easy ride and the attacking players get slaughtered or overly praised.

A fully fit Shaw does get the nod but it is too risky to throw him in at this stage. The Netherlands attack isn't brilliant but they are still very tricky opponents which isn't the ideal game for a player who is lacking in match sharpness and fitness.

 

[Cellarite]

You win champions league finals because you have the world’s better players. The majority not English. I never mentioned that shitty infantile song about the RAF. But now that you mention it, it’s fucking classless.

You have done brilliantly for a very limited team. No question about that. My point is if you met anyone good your teams arses would be on their couch. You need to know that, if you don’t you know fuck all about football.

And you lot left the tournament as the biggest donkeys and an embarrassment. Talk about class - the way you come on an English football forum and act like you have done, right from your first days on bluemoon is classless. One of the biggest gobshites on the forum.

 

[Phil1]

constant reading negativity and hatred has this affect on some.

My hatred comes from your faux positivity so you’re wrong.
:-)

 

[Phil1]

Quite looking forward to this one (any excuse for a piss-up)

Atmosphere over here last night was fucking amazing. Place is absolutely booming so hopefully the useless twat in charge flukes another one tonight because Sunday will be off the charts.
Flight early Monday morning so I’m expecting a hangover at the airport whatever the result!

 

[Crooked_rain]

To me Foden hasn’t been utilised properly. It looks like a group of good players who aren’t a cohesive unit. You do have players who can score goals out of nothing, but your overall play is just ineffective. Doesn’t flow. You look at the movement of Spain and they have it. Their players look better all over the pitch. They attack and defend as a unit, they have top class m, world class players who turned up. If you want to be labelled works class, you turn up. So to me they aren’t world class. Nowhere near it.

The brutal truth is so far, you have been, apart from us, obviously, the least attractive team to watch in the tourney. But, here you are in the semi. I honestly believe that if you don’t improve dramatically, Spain will mullah you.

Nobody will "mullah" England in this tournament

That's part of the problem in a way, It gives waistcoat the thought that we're hard to beat so we can try to nick games, rather than setting out to do a job on teams

Its not like Spain have been smashing everyone. They won their last two by a one goal margin. Same against Italy and Albania.

Teams may beat England, nobody is going to smash this England in a meaningful game. Say what you want about England, they're not easy to beat.

Of course anything can happen in football and any team can get smashed on the day. But it's a high probability that England won't be getting smashed off anybody, even if they lose

 

[Crooked_rain]

I'm torn on this. Bringing him on when you have fewer substitutions is quite risky. Starting him gives you the ability to take him off if you need to, and plan for it potentially. He helps the whole side have more balance by giving us the threat down the left, which unlocks the middle of the park as well.

I would expect Southgate to stick with Trippier though.

I also think Trippier's been fucking woeful. He's not a left back granted, but when he is attacked he's usually beaten and when he has the ball as a professional he should be able to use his left foot enough to pass the ball down the line and open things up.

But that's how it goes with International football. The defenders get an easy ride and the attacking players get slaughtered or overly praised.

Even the Newcastle fans are shocked that trippier is starting for England , given the last half of the season he had

 

[spacecadet]

The Sun, an excuse for a news outlet producing more dogshit than a day at Battersea Dogs Home, AGAIN.
Here goes. So their darlings Saka, Bellingham and Rice performed in the first FOUR GAMES? And Harry Hotspur only struggled in the last game? What a bunch of whoppers.

"The Dutch play with a back four and England could revert to the 4-2-3-1 shape they used for the first four games of the Euros.

However, the back five brought the best out of stars like Bukayo Saka, Jude Bellingham and Declan Rice.

And it could yet be the best way for Harry Kane to regain his form after struggling in the quarters."

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Gakpo masterclass tonight. Its bound to happen.

Gareth, be a little bit Kevin Keegan tonight ffs!