Newcastle (a) post match thread

Last summer is looking a bit strange now. Did we really need Mahrez? We obviously didn’t need an overhaul, but depth at left back and holding midfield was clearly needed and we didn’t get it.[/QUOTE]

We probably did need another wide player because if either of Sane or Sterling got injured we'd have had to change the system, especially with the plan to move Bernado into the centre this year. Obviously so far mahrez hasn't been very good and doesn't even look like he suits our style of play. Still can't believe we didn't sign another defensive midfielder too.
 
Craig said:
But he put out weak teams in the early rounds of the league cup. We've got 4 midfielders for 4 positions and that's not including Foden, the strikers keep swapping from game top game. It's just not an excuse for last night after a run of easy games. Walker can't fucking control a ball whilst nobody is within 15 yards of him consistently. If that's down to tiredness then it really is time to give up, they train every bloody day and they'll have had harder training sessions than most these recent matches.Taking it too easy and starting games with barely any tempo is a what's caught

Stangely Ronaldo and Messi seem to cope with constantly playing for about 15 years.
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Yeah ok.
 
If Fernandinho isn't playing or has a bad game we lose.

He's been run into the ground.

All because the club didn't get a DM in the Summer and January.

Maybe that's why Pep looks so pissed off?
 
East Level 2 said:
Shite performance, and topped off by several of our under-performing jokers fucking off down the tunnel at full time rather than acknowledging those of us who bothered to travel.
We needed a deputy for Dino and a reliable full back or two, yet all we did in the summer was spend a lot of money on a player for a position that was not a top priority.
Can't see the Dippers dropping points as the rags did in 2012, but we live in hope. And we've still got three cups to aim for.
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That was commented on at the end of the game on BT. The commentator said that it looked like the City team couldn't wait to get off the pitch.
 
Craig said:
But he put out weak teams in the early rounds of the league cup. We've got 4 midfielders for 4 positions and that's not including Foden, the strikers keep swapping from game top game. It's just not an excuse for last night after a run of easy games. Walker can't fucking control a ball whilst nobody is within 15 yards of him consistently. If that's down to tiredness then it really is time to give up, they train every bloody day and they'll have had harder training sessions than most these recent matches.Taking it too easy and starting games with barely any tempo is a what's caught

Stangely Ronaldo and Messi seem to cope with constantly playing for about 15 years.
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I generally agree to all of that,
but you know we did start quick! Went for a goal and scored, being a bit lucky the way it happened.

What annoys me most is the sad fact that our team is not able to manage the game when you feel it's not going too well up front.
We don't have the option to switch to a defensive "shut down shop" mode if we are winning, pulling them out to go for counters, the easy way.
Pep rules out that way.

We went for the next goal (and had loads of chances not being used, time and again...)
and instead of frustrating THEM by controlling the game,
they frustrated us (or we frustrated ourselves).
That's not too smart.
We have thrown away a winning match, again.

Instead of Pep's public "sometimes happen" I hope there is a very clear and open analysis and communication
WHY we are not able to win those matches although taking the lead.
Throwing away 3 matches within 5 weeks while being in a title race is... a problem.

In difficult situations Klopp's players kick the ball to row z, as you can handle an opponent throw quite well and win some time to reorganize.

Especially Danilo and Walker - also Fern - clearly need that option as well before they pass the ball back to the crowded centre
where opponent players are already waiting for the present.

Play it easy and sometimes don't do the technical brilliance.
You only have to win the match to get 3 points.
A good team can feel what is best during the game and is able to switch between different tactics.
You also need a good commucation to do so and I don't see that on the pitch.

We simply have to learn from those kind of defeats.
"Sometimes happen" is ignoring the problems.
 
Craig said:
It wouldn't have been given tho would it? Everyone was pissed off but the replay clearly showed the ref tell Kev to wait for the whistle. You can argue about the yellow but certainly not over it being disallowed. All this conspiracy bollocks is getting ridiculous. The 4 league games we've lost we've been shite in 3 and played brilliantly first half at Chelsea but didn't take our chances. Only got ourselves to blame. We had all this about cup draws being fixed against us not long ago. That one's gone quiet since we've started getting some of the easiest draws possible
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Are you saying we were shite last night as well? Really? Were we that good? ;)
 
balotellishaircut said:
I'm talking about when we are leading a game mate, we have conceded 3 against Palace, 2 against Leicester now 2 against Newcastle, something is not right whether it's tiredness confidence whatever, but digging in and grinding out results is better than saving face.
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Not got time to keep going round on this but most of the goals conceded in the games you refer to had little or nothing to do with digging in or not.
 
Why are people debating who/what position we should've strengthened in last summer?...do people really believe that the reason we lost last night was down to a lack of talent/strength in depth of our squad? Fuckin ell....we've just scored 30 odd goals in a calendar month are in a position to win all 4 trophies having scored over a hundred fuckin goals and people want more? Here's a positive....if the scousers lose by 2 goals tonight we'll be better off than we were before the Newcastle game...same points behind with a better goal difference with 14 games left to play. Even if we go 7 points behind there's still 42 points to play for what's the fuckin panic? Might be a good thing them thinking they've already won it...it was last time.
 
ctid1894 said:
Big difference is last season didn’t have the World Cup leading up to it meaning the players had no rest in the summer (physically or mentally).
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Not to be a tit, but that can be said for all top teams. We are not the only team who had playars in the World Cup
 
Sometimes teams just have a collective bad day and yesterday was that. In games like that we are screaming out for a fully fit Mendy.

I'm sure the players were as dejected with their performance as Pep and we all were/are and I've no doubt that the diplomacy shown in the post-match press conference is just that and the 1st team staff are fully aware of what's needed in terms of recruitment to push on in all fronts for future seasons. Hopefully the powers that be can secure Pep's targets in the summer. If we get to 2 of the 3 cup finals (Hopefully win a couple) and come in the top 2 in the EPL that's an incredible effort once again.

In the immediate, short term i fully expect the players the want to redeem themselves against Arsenal, Chelsea & Everton and we can just live in hope that Liverpool fall off a cliff but failing that then we just have to hold our hands up and say they have been the better team so far over the course of the season - No issues with that personally.
 
St.Pauli support said:
I generally agree to all of that,
but you know we did start quick! Went for a goal and scored, being a bit lucky the way it happened.

What annoys me most is the sad fact that our team is not able to manage the game when you feel it's not going too well up front.
We don't have the option to switch to a defensive "shut down
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OB1 said:
Not got time to keep going round on this but most of the goals conceded in the games you refer to had little or nothing to do with digging in or not.
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what I mean is, when we were leading in these games as last night, when it gets to 1-1 should we not use game management, I say digging in, we really are a mentally weak team if we flap at a slight touch of adversary.
 
We only have ourselves to blame this season, to lose three games against Leicester, Palace and Newcastle after taking the lead is unforgivable.

As much as people don't like to admit it he Dippers deserve to win the League this year.
 
We're having a good season, but Liverpool are having a great one. Don't care one jot about retaining titles the league will be like this for the next 5 years with us winning a few, United and Liverpool and Chelsea getting one in between.
 
balotellishaircut said:
what I mean is, when we were leading in these games as last night, when it gets to 1-1 should we not use game management, I say digging in, we really are a mentally weak team if we flap at a slight touch of adversary.
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The opposite is true if you remember beating dippers 2-1.

I don't generally talk about us being a mentally weak team, we have had some success.

I was going for winning a match smart, also on a bad day.
 
I'd wager Walker has been responsible for half the goals we have conceded this season.

He never was the most technically proficient but even his supposed recovery pace isn't as pronounced this season.

He makes numerous bad choices and being asked to join up and make another man in the midfield is exposing both him and us horribly. He always turns inside and is never far away from a rash challenge, overrunning the ball or a bad tackle.

I personally don't like him and would prefer we went after someone we can rely on for the next five or six years, the lad Wan-Bissaka at Palace, he''l do for me.
 
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