Neymar

this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales
 
ancoats said:
this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales

The rag fans can say what they want about Ronaldo coming home Ronaldo is going nowhere
 
ancoats said:
this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales

Transfer fee is widely agreed to be 25-28m Euros for 100% of his rights, including two friendlies and first buyers' rights to three Santos youth products. In addition, it is pretty much accepted that Barca paid 10m for a pre-contract with Neymar last year; this rumor is backed up by an unspecified payment of 10m in FCB's official publicly viewable finances from last year, marked as "players" or something similar, and the fact that the Santos VP acknowledged that Barca had a pre-contract with Neymar.
Overall price: ~38m Euros.
 
waspish said:
ancoats said:
this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales

The rag fans can say what they want about Ronaldo coming home Ronaldo is going nowhere

waspish is right... Ronnie is going no where ... in an election year with piss poor results for Real, they will never let him go. Wholesale changes and new management will please tran boy for a little longer.

Also think Neymar is suited much better to La Liga but question whether he would have been better at Real than Barca... Will be interesting to see the dynamic and ego of both Neymar and Messi ... Hope Tito is good at man management as well
 
SuperSilva said:
waspish said:
ancoats said:
this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales

The rag fans can say what they want about Ronaldo coming home Ronaldo is going nowhere

waspish is right... Ronnie is going no where ... in an election year with piss poor results for Real, they will never let him go. Wholesale changes and new management will please tran boy for a little longer.

Also think Neymar is suited much better to La Liga but question whether he would have been better at Real than Barca... Will be interesting to see the dynamic and ego of both Neymar and Messi ... Hope Tito is good at man management as well
I'm curious about this myself. Would Neymar fit the tiki-taka style as well? I can just see it now, the moment he decides to shoot and doesn't pass to Messi..ooohh dear!
 
Posted on another thread. Barça should change the system a bit to give them both some freedom.

Sell a couple of forwards and buy a couple of centre-backs. Play 3-5-2 perhaps.

I think they'd more than manage to play together, being honest.

I've not seen that much of him but Neymar looks like a hard worker and a team player.
 
CELTICRORY said:
ancoats said:
this stinks of a 3rd party ownership and for £20million it keeps the uefa FFPR happy

alot of the utd scum are saying ronnie will come back to utd with a nike deal paying for him and will make the money back on shirts sales

Transfer fee is widely agreed to be 25-28m Euros for 100% of his rights, including two friendlies and first buyers' rights to three Santos youth products. In addition, it is pretty much accepted that Barca paid 10m for a pre-contract with Neymar last year; this rumor is backed up by an unspecified payment of 10m in FCB's official publicly viewable finances from last year, marked as "players" or something similar, and the fact that the Santos VP acknowledged that Barca had a pre-contract with Neymar.
Overall price: ~38m Euros.

that is still very low for him a world class player and we was quoted £100million
or something daft like that
so thats is defo a 3rd party ownership deal with neymar people still holding is media rights or nike still holding is media rights
 
Barca will have to find a replacement for Victor Valdes as well as Centre Back so it is looking like a busy summer for them.
 
You'd think ter Stegen and Hummels are the obvious choices. Not sure if ter Stegen's distribution is good enough though.
 
blinkblue said:
You'd think ter Stegen and Hummels are the obvious choices. Not sure if ter Stegen's distribution is good enough though.
Hummels can't defend well enough either.
 
blinkblue said:
You'd think ter Stegen and Hummels are the obvious choices. Not sure if ter Stegen's distribution is good enough though.

They might opt for De Gea or Reina but Hummels seems more of a possibility.
 
Recently saw some speculation which said Barca aren't interested in Hummels anymore because he's too similar to Pique (which if true, is a good decision). If you ask me, they need a destructive centre-back. Rumours are that they were looking at Thiago Silva but apparently his wages are too high. A goalkeeper isn't extremely necessary because I'm sure Valdes wouldn't mind staying till end of his contract if no suitable replacement is found. I also think Barca aren't too bothered about letting him leave on a free because they may not find a suitable replacement, after all.
 
Ray78 said:
Barca will have to find a replacement for Victor Valdes as well as Centre Back so it is looking like a busy summer for them.

If they go through the window spunking the majority of their budget on Neymar whilst skimping or just flat out ignoring buying a solid centre back there will be many laughs indeed.

Sell Thiago to us, go and buy Agger. Would be half the price of Hummels at least, likely easier to pry from Liverpool than Hummels from Dortmund, and they'd get a better defender in the peak of his career, maybe even for long enough to start training defenders at La Masia :p
 
adrianr said:
Ray78 said:
Barca will have to find a replacement for Victor Valdes as well as Centre Back so it is looking like a busy summer for them.

If they go through the window spunking the majority of their budget on Neymar whilst skimping or just flat out ignoring buying a solid centre back there will be many laughs indeed.

Sell Thiago to us, go and buy Agger. Would be half the price of Hummels at least, likely easier to pry from Liverpool than Hummels from Dortmund, and they'd get a better defender in the peak of his career, maybe even for long enough to start training defenders at La Masia :p

True, they could also sell us Messi as well and wipe out nearly all their debt :).
 
Joehannes said:
blinkblue said:
You'd think ter Stegen and Hummels are the obvious choices. Not sure if ter Stegen's distribution is good enough though.
Hummels can't defend well enough either.

Last night was one of numerous examples how overrated as defender Hummels is as well why Nastasic sent Subotic to the bench in Serbian team.
 
mancboy123 said:
I think the simplistic theory is that you wont be able to mark both of them so if you mark messi that frees up space for neymar and vice versa the problem is that in general they both like to occupy the same spaces of the pitch so it will be interesting to see if they can adapt their games around each other as they may just get in each others way.

What i find weird about this transfer is that it doesnt address their main problem of needing a central defender and another top striker which will probs be another 50m at least to that end you can see villa going and maybe pedro, the problem with alot of barcelona players i.e thiago and pedro is that they would walk in to any other team on the planet and the thrill of sitting on the bench for barcelona can only last for so long. If you assume they have a front four and 2 of those spaces are occupied by messi and neymar then that leaves iniesta, xavi pedro, tello thiago and youngsters fightin for very few spots and someone may have to go.

Neymar deal is as much marketing one as football related one.

They'll rather have bad defence again if that's the price to have another superstar that brings publicity and marketing money. Plus he is quality and extremely talented player, you just don't miss that kind of a deal if you have a chance to make it.
 
I have to agree that marketing played a huge role in Barca's signing of Neymar. He doesn't really fit a need for Barca, and I don't think he suits the tiki-taka style of football either. He strikes me as a player who is concerned with using his skillful dribbling to create chances for himself rather than for his teammates. But hey, he'll sell shirts and bring in money. I just don't see him increasing Barca's chances of being more successful in Europe though.
 

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