NHS Strike

[Prestwich_Blue]

Isn't this the first time either ever or certainly in over 50 years midwives felt compelled to take action? Does that not speak volumes.

Still, whilst health is seen as a commodity and privilege rather than a "right" in a country as well developed as ours, I guess the writing's always gonna be on the wall.

I'm sure everyone's "alright Jack" in our wonderfully compassionate and caring hug a hoodie society our superbly well intentioned masters are creating for us.

I'm sure you didn't mean it to come out like this but it seems like you're suggesting that perhaps if we had to pay for healthcare directly, rather than through our taxes, we might care more about ensuring we had high-quality, well motivated people working in the system.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Isn't this the first time either ever or certainly in over 50 years midwives felt compelled to take action? Does that not speak volumes.

Still, whilst health is seen as a commodity and privilege rather than a "right" in a country as well developed as ours, I guess the writing's always gonna be on the wall.

I'm sure everyone's "alright Jack" in our wonderfully compassionate and caring hug a hoodie society our superbly well intentioned masters are creating for us.

I'm sure you didn't mean it to come out like this but it seems like you're suggesting that perhaps if we had to pay for healthcare directly, rather than through our taxes, we might care more about ensuring we had high-quality, well motivated people working in the system.

I am afraid that approach didn't work for the exploding breast implant shambles a few years back. The NHS had to help "clear up the mess". I am not commenting from personal experience on this!!

 

[Petetheblu]

Well said Pete......'Urmston' is obviously living in fucking cuckoo land.

'done well' pmsl......The pay is shite for the training,responsibility,unsocialness,hassle and stress that accompanies the role.

Has anyone read the piece I posted a couple of pages back?? it deserves attention.

I have read that the other day and as you said it could have been taken from any one of my colleagues at station.

The thing is I don't want to sit around on station all day sipping tea, sleeping or working out, however its straight out every shift then its normally 8 hours before I'm allowed to use the toilet, eat, drink or catch up on important emails (ebola, coroners court, change of medicine procedures etc whilst I cram food into my stomach) Does anyone else do this on their 30 minutes break? Then bang on 30 mins it another job, of course it straight out as you can't delay an emergency so if you've not eaten or used the conveniences it tough titty. I'd just like to be treated like an human being and not a bum on a seat by my NHS bosses. I've risked my life saving others, I don't want praise, medals or certificates, I just want to pay my bloody bills.

Yerr, I deserve my 1% Mr Hunt, in fact I deserve your 10%!

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Well said Pete......'Urmston' is obviously living in fucking cuckoo land.

'done well' pmsl......The pay is shite for the training,responsibility,unsocialness,hassle and stress that accompanies the role.

Has anyone read the piece I posted a couple of pages back?? it deserves attention.

I have read that the other day and as you said it could have been taken from any one of my colleagues at station.

The thing is I don't want to sit around on station all day sipping tea, sleeping or working out, however its straight out every shift then its normally 8 hours before I'm allowed to use the toilet, eat, drink or catch up on important emails (ebola, coroners court, change of medicine procedures etc whilst I cram food into my stomach) Does anyone else do this on their 30 minutes break? Then bang on 30 mins it another job, of course it straight out as you can't delay an emergency so if you've not eaten or used the conveniences it tough titty. I'd just like to be treated like an human being and not a bum on a seat by my NHS bosses. I've risked my life saving others, I don't want praise, medals or certificates, I just want to pay my bloody bills.

Yerr, I deserve my 1% Mr Hunt, in fact I deserve your 10%!

Great post mate.With you all the way.Ive just got in from my job..Stressed out to fuck.Urmston should come sit in my world..your world and all public sector staffs world for a day or two..Hed soon realose the realities of it...
Fuck the tories..cunts

 

[marco]

i seriously think the NHS should have a blanket fee of five pounds for everyone seeing a doctor to a visit at the A&E this would weed out the wankers who have nothing wrong with them the one's clogging up the system because they are pissed up or have taken drugs or have took off down to A&E because they are lonely, the money could be passed back to the nurses and ambulance crew's in the form of a patient related bonus so for eg the NHS could keep £2.50 and the ambulance crews get £2.50 per patient that's treated

 

[urmston]

Well said Pete......'Urmston' is obviously living in fucking cuckoo land.

'done well' pmsl......The pay is shite for the training,responsibility,unsocialness,hassle and stress that accompanies the role.

Has anyone read the piece I posted a couple of pages back?? it deserves attention.

I have read that the other day and as you said it could have been taken from any one of my colleagues at station.

The thing is I don't want to sit around on station all day sipping tea, sleeping or working out, however its straight out every shift then its normally 8 hours before I'm allowed to use the toilet, eat, drink or catch up on important emails (ebola, coroners court, change of medicine procedures etc whilst I cram food into my stomach) Does anyone else do this on their 30 minutes break? Then bang on 30 mins it another job, of course it straight out as you can't delay an emergency so if you've not eaten or used the conveniences it tough titty. I'd just like to be treated like an human being and not a bum on a seat by my NHS bosses. I've risked my life saving others, I don't want praise, medals or certificates, I just want to pay my bloody bills.

Yerr, I deserve my 1% Mr Hunt, in fact I deserve your 10%!

Great post mate.With you all the way.Ive just got in from my job..Stressed out to fuck.Urmston should come sit in my world..your world and all public sector staffs world for a day or two..Hed soon realose the realities of it...
Fuck the tories..c**ts

If you don't like your job you should quit and move on to something better.

There'll be someone else to take your place soon enough.

NHS staff are replaceable like all other workers.

But you won't quit. You'll look at the jobs, wages, pensions and other benefits available to a person of your skills and realise that the NHS is easily your best bet.

So stop whining.

Am I right or am I right?

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I have read that the other day and as you said it could have been taken from any one of my colleagues at station.

The thing is I don't want to sit around on station all day sipping tea, sleeping or working out, however its straight out every shift then its normally 8 hours before I'm allowed to use the toilet, eat, drink or catch up on important emails (ebola, coroners court, change of medicine procedures etc whilst I cram food into my stomach) Does anyone else do this on their 30 minutes break? Then bang on 30 mins it another job, of course it straight out as you can't delay an emergency so if you've not eaten or used the conveniences it tough titty. I'd just like to be treated like an human being and not a bum on a seat by my NHS bosses. I've risked my life saving others, I don't want praise, medals or certificates, I just want to pay my bloody bills.

Yerr, I deserve my 1% Mr Hunt, in fact I deserve your 10%!

Great post mate.With you all the way.Ive just got in from my job..Stressed out to fuck.Urmston should come sit in my world..your world and all public sector staffs world for a day or two..Hed soon realose the realities of it...
Fuck the tories..c**ts

If you don't like your job you should quit and move on to something better.

There'll be someone else to take your place soon enough.

NHS staff are replaceable like all other workers.

But you won't quit. You'll look at the jobs, wages, pensions and other benefits available to a person of your skills and realise that the NHS is easily your best bet.

So stop whining.

Am I right or am I right?

You simply cannot generalise like that I am afraid.
I actually really enjoy my job,if I didn't I wouldn't be in my 16th year, trust me. However my job is very very stressful and since the cuts which directly affect my ability to do my job and provide a better service to the public,the levels of stress that managers are creating by insisting we "do more with less" is again unrealistic. It is nothing to do with the money that keeps my me in my job. As I said no 2 days are ever the same however would I quit if the opportunity came along? I am not sure but this isn't the debate. There are numerous opportunities in my job to try other things. I was on a secondment for 5 yrs out of my normal role and the opportunity arose recently to get on something which is very prominent in the news.
I have 3 children 2,5 and 14 so for you to turn around and say quit if you don't like it is simply unrealistic.
The debate is not about job satisfaction,stress levels,the debate is about should nhs and all public sector staff receive a fair pay rise after years and years of nothing.
Fucking right they should.I always relate it to the specialist at Alder Hey who probably earns well over 100k per year. Should he get a pay rise. In my opinion yes as he made my sons life so much better after a year of tests leading to an operation.
Nurses / Doctors , Police Officers/Staff, Fire brigade , Paramedics..you name it, they deserve it

 

[Tim of the Oak]

On Question Time last night, the agency / locum spend for the NHS was said to be over £2.5 billion.

The truth of the matter is that the NHS could afford to pay the 1 percent rise recommended by the Pay Review Body.

The NHS needs to committ to developing its staff and reducing agency spend paid to companies (that can be several times the rate for NHS staff ).

 

[jonmcity]

And with thousands of foreign nurses willing to work in the NHS and nursing courses 10 times oversubscribed there is not going to be a nurse shortage any time soon.


There are over ten thousand vacancies for nurses and growing. Hope you get a nurse who knows what they are doing if you get ill. lots of foreign nurses are not fit for purpose. Some come from countries less developed and do not have the same equipment knowledge or experience of a NHS trained nurse.

Im not disputing your comment because I just dont know but may I ask what your source is for this figure?

Thanks

NHS QUALIFIED NURSE SUPPLY
AND DEMAND SURVEY – FINDINGS
Report produced for the Health Education
England Nursing Supply Steering Group

— 90 surveyed organisations (83 per cent) reported that they are experiencing
qualified nursing workforce supply shortages.
— 42 surveyed organisations (39 per cent) are estimated to have between
1-50 FTE hard to fill nursing vacancies. 39 organisations (36 per cent) are
estimated to have 50–100 FTE vacancies. Nine organisations (8 per cent)
are estimated to have over 100 FTE nurse vacancies (figures ranging from
110–250 FTE).
— The overall vacancy rate across organisations that provided their nurse
staffing establishment data is calculated at 10 per cent (12566.35 FTE)
i.e. posts not permanently occupied.
— Reported hard to fill vacancies span a wide range of nursing areas (over 40)
and generally in low volumes. There are two exceptions at Band 5 where
results may be reflective of more widespread challenges for theatre and
medical nursing areas.
— Skill shortages at a local or national level are the most reported reason for
recruitment difficulties.
— Local action to manage supply challenges has focused on skill mix reviews/
service reconfiguration, local recruitment campaigns and use of agency/
temporary staff.
— 49 surveyed organisations (45 per cent) have actively recruited from outside
of the UK in the last 12 months to fill nursing vacancies.
— 96 per cent of reported overseas activity has been in EEA countries – the
trend has been to target EEA countries to fill Band 5 experienced general
nursing positions – Spain, Ireland and Portugal are most commonly targeted.
— 56 surveyed organisations (51 per cent) are considering actively recruiting
qualified nursing staff from outside of the UK in the coming 12 months –
Spain, Ireland and Portugal look to continue being the primary destinations.

 

[law74]

Not quite sure if Urmston is a journalist for the daily mail or just relied on it for all his opinions