Oasis reunion

I wouldn't call supply and demand a capitalist concept, it's basic economics.
Whatever. You get the point though. Prices change depending on demand already, we get that.
Usually though the price shown is what you expect to pay. It’s what was advertised.

That isn’t the case in how this was handled.
I think there is something unethical if not illegal in advertising face value and changing it after someone has queued and is ready to pay.
 
I don't agree with the poster that it was the right time for them to reform but Noel could've put in an appearance separately from Liam. Liam didn't turn up until later that evening as he was doing his festival slot in Germany so they could've both played and not even had the misfortune of bumping into each other.
But he was on a family holiday at the time. Who knows what could've been going on in his family at the time? Who knows the reason why he was on a family holiday? I know I've been for a break in North Wales on occasions and for all and sundry, was having a nice family trip. Only me and my ex knew at the time that on one occasion, she was going through a breast cancer scare and another, I was spending time with my Dad whose brother was being held hostage in Syria.

I'm happy to pile in on Liam and Noel doing nothing at all about fans sitting for 6, 7, 8 hours queuing for tickets they believed were £120 only to get to the front of the queue and find out they'd gone up by £200 with no warning. But I'm not happy to have a go at them for something I know fuck all about. They may be celebrities but people have lives of their own and have their own reasons for doing what they do.
 
But he was on a family holiday at the time. Who knows what could've been going on in his family at the time? Who knows the reason why he was on a family holiday? I know I've been for a break in North Wales on occasions and for all and sundry, was having a nice family trip. Only me and my ex knew at the time that on one occasion, she was going through a breast cancer scare and another, I was spending time with my Dad whose brother was being held hostage in Syria.

I'm happy to pile in on Liam and Noel doing nothing at all about fans sitting for 6, 7, 8 hours queuing for tickets they believed were £120 only to get to the front of the queue and find out they'd gone up by £200 with no warning. But I'm not happy to have a go at them for something I know fuck all about. They may be celebrities but people have lives of their own and have their own reasons for doing what they do.
Noel and Liam are ultimately responsible for allowing dynamic pricing with these tickets. The buck falls with them. I don't blame them for it as they have taken advantage of the system which is currently in place, to allow them to earn more money.

I strongly disagree with the principal of dynamic pricing for concert tickets. I feel even more strongly against how it was implemented on Saturday.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
Noel and Liam are ultimately responsible for allowing dynamic pricing with these tickets. The buck falls with them. I don't blame them for it as they have taken advantage of the system which is currently in place, to allow them to earn more money.

I strongly disagree with the principal of dynamic pricing for concert tickets. I feel even stronger against how it was implemented on Saturday.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Kind of what I said about the dynamic pricing.
 
Noel and Liam are ultimately responsible for allowing dynamic pricing with these tickets. The buck falls with them. I don't blame them for it as they have taken advantage of the system which is currently in place, to allow them to earn more money.

I strongly disagree with the principal of dynamic pricing for concert tickets. I feel even stronger against how it was implemented on Saturday.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

What I am finding hilarious is that other stars are coming out against dynamic pricing AFTER they benefited from it themselves.

It's one big smelly trough :)
 
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Fair enough. I don't think they ever became popular because they were against the corporate machine though. For me, they became popular because they knocked out a shit load of great music, particularly on the first 2 albums. I seem to recall the build-up to the release of their third album was hyped up way beyond the first two so they were playing the corporate game a hell of a long time ago.
Definitely the music was the major part.

But they fact they were normal, relatable lads was definitely part of the reason why they became such a phenomenon.

I remember that third album well, they released it on a Thursday as a "fuck you" to the industry, and it was still the fastest selling album of all time.

They made great play in the 90s of charging affordable prices for tickets and not glad handling with the industry in the US.

I appreciate times change and like I say, don't begrudge them a huge payday whatsoever.

But I think the short-term cashing in and ripping off the fans is a really short sighted move.

Last week millions of people were buzzing they were back together. This week, many of those are calling them out for being greedy and ripping off their fans.

Not sure what price you'd put on that.
 
Definitely the music was the major part.

But they fact they were normal, relatable lads was definitely part of the reason why they became such a phenomenon.

I remember that third album well, they released it on a Thursday as a "fuck you" to the industry, and it was still the fastest selling album of all time.

They made great play in the 90s of charging affordable prices for tickets and not glad handling with the industry in the US.

I appreciate times change and like I say, don't begrudge them a huge payday whatsoever.

But I think the short-term cashing in and ripping off the fans is a really short sighted move.

Last week millions of people were buzzing they were back together. This week, many of those are calling them out for being greedy and ripping off their fans.

Not sure what price you'd put on that.
You’re one of the best posters on here. I haven’t agreed with you always but you always back up your views well.
 
Definitely the music was the major part.

But they fact they were normal, relatable lads was definitely part of the reason why they became such a phenomenon.

I remember that third album well, they released it on a Thursday as a "fuck you" to the industry, and it was still the fastest selling album of all time.

They made great play in the 90s of charging affordable prices for tickets and not glad handling with the industry in the US.

I appreciate times change and like I say, don't begrudge them a huge payday whatsoever.

But I think the short-term cashing in and ripping off the fans is a really short sighted move.

Last week millions of people were buzzing they were back together. This week, many of those are calling them out for being greedy and ripping off their fans.

Not sure what price you'd put on that.

Think this is spot on mate.

I was surprised just how excited I was by the reunion announcement, but I think everything since then has been a master class in how not to do it...

- Outside of the brief statement, there has been no further comment or interview with either of them.
- No one knows what the full band line up will be. Yes, the Gallagher's are the driving force behind the band, but as they're billing this as an Oasis reunion I think it's pretty strange the full lineup wasn't announced at the same time.
- The communication or lack of, around the pre-sale ballot and timings was appalling.
- The well publicised 'dynamic' pricing shambles, which nearly everyone attempting to buy tickets was unaware of before hand
- No subsequent comment or acknowledgement from either brother.

I was very fortunate to get tickets, and I say this as a long term fan of the band, but if I'd missed out on tickets in these circumstances I'd probably be firmly of the 'they can go fuck themselves' stance.

Maybe neither of them care, but given all the Oasis social media comments in the build up about cracking down on re-sale prices and promotion of the twickets link up, it really leaves a sour taste that its the band that have been the ones to screw the fans over.
 
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As someone alluded to earlier do you think theses actually give a fuck what the fans think,like everyone says they are just lads from an estate in Manchester and if the attitudes they still have to authority and the fuck yous they give I don’t think they’d have gone far in the world had they not become what they are. They’ll take your money happily because they know there are a lot of mugs and they are literally laughing all the way to the bank. They’ve not got back together for the fans it’s pure money (which I don’t blame them), but stop thinking they give a fuck about you because they really don’t and never have.
 
I said this a while ago, would’ve been a smart bit of marketing to do a city presale. Fans of other clubs would complain but it’d have tied in well with this definitely maybe city clothing range stuff they’re now announcing.

I’m sure they at least toyed with the idea and it got written off for some reason or other.

If they gave City fans preferential access, the Guardian editorial team would self-combust. There would be bitter discussion pieces in the Culture AND Sport sections.
 
Life is hard and music and football are all we got. When someone comes along and blatantly demonstrates to you that they see you as absolutely nothing but a cash cow it's just another kick in the stomach that makes you lose faith in everything.
They probably think they're being badass and cutting edge but I just see them as mardy bastards.
 
I agree with a lot of this. I should add that I am somewhat conflicted as I've been heavily involved with campaigning for cheaper football tickets down the years. I'm also massively opposed to dynamic pricing for gigs and it would've been great if Oasis had railed against that from the off rather than agreeing to it. In their defence (if you can call it a defence), they're far from alone as the likes of Springsteen and Coldplay have, in the past, agreed to dynamic pricing for their gigs too. To that end, they can't be accused of giving any less of a fuck as Bruce Springsteen and Chris Martin but for some reason Oasis seem to be getting a lot more shit for it than those two.

Dynamic pricing issues aside, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. Gig prices are high pretty much everywhere these days but gigs are different to football matches in that many football fans attend 20,30,or 40 matches a season, whereas you'll be hard pushed to find even the most diehard Oasis fan who has attended 20,30,or 40 Oasis gigs in their lifetime. Put another way, I went to see The Killers at the Co-Op Live in June and my standing tickets were £103.50 each including booking fee. If City charged that for a CL QF or SF I'd be far more inclined to kick off about that than I was when I stumped up the money for my Killers tickets. That's partly because I attend every City home game when I'm around to do so, but I've only been to 7 or 8 Killers gigs. I spend far more money on football tickets every year than I do gig tickets.

Apart from the dynamic pricing, I don't think the Gallaghers have shat on anyone really. They've got to where they are through their own efforts and they're clearly reaping the rewards of that. I'd challenge anyone on this forum not to maximise their own popularity if they found themselves in the same situation as Liam and Noel. Questions definitely should be asked about the dynamic pricing but beyond that, they're getting unwarranted stick compared to many other artists who charge a fortune for concert tickets too.
Fair enough maybe Co-op live but standing in Heaton public park for £355 rip off we can stand in Middleton road for nothing
 
Life is hard and music and football are all we got. When someone comes along and blatantly demonstrates to you that they see you as absolutely nothing but a cash cow it's just another kick in the stomach that makes you lose faith in everything.
They probably think they're being badass and cutting edge but I just see them as mardy bastards.
Don’t lose faith people will have it up on youtube as it’s happening for free. Everyone takes a phone turn it up loud “almost same as being there” :)
 

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