PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[eyalluvitt]

Our ownership would have to sell IF we were guilty, they simply would have no option and as a club we would be damaged in a major way, probably relegated several divisions.

But as said before IF, and why on earth would our execs commit fraud in what I said earlier is a small investment model by our owners standard.

Then our disgraced owners could buy United and the celebrating media could circle jerk themselves into a frenzy

 

[Scottyboi]

Because they are laying the groundwork for giving us a reputation that will never go away for cheating and cooking the books whilst their beaus continue to cheat and cook the books and get praised for it?

Why wouldn't blues get pissed off about that?

And they are making money off the clicks the dirty cunts.

 

[KearsleyBlue]

Isn’t it great being a blue.

I love him and his enthusiasm but his guests make his podcast unlistenable. (The fans I mean, not the ex players)

 

[bluenova]

I highly doubt that there is anyone on here who could go on a show like that and not say something that could be twisted in a different way.

Stefan was doing exactly what he should have done, in giving a fair and impartial as possible explanation of the situation from a legal point view

It's a tricky one.

I had media training thirty years ago, and was told to do what politicians do, which is to give the answers YOU want no matter what the question is.

It's taken to extremes these days, where you see a 5 minute interview where they repeat themselves over and over again. It looks daft in full, but the reality is they're only thinking of the 10 second clip for the news, so they repeat the soundbite they want, over and over.

Stefan came across really well in the context of the show, and frankly, if you want to get a more complex argument across, you can't play the soundbite games. Pretty much everyone had heard the relegation argument before, but at least now a significant number will have heard a reasonable explanation as to why the Premier League might not win.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I love him and his enthusiasm but his guests make his podcast unlistenable. (The fans I mean, not the ex players)

Some of them make it unwatchable! ;-)

 

[Stoned Rose]

The Fallowfield Flasher, I presume!

The Rusholme Rum’un actually mate.

 

[oakiecokie]

Whenever a scouser moans about City I start my response by asking "What's wrong with a wealthy benefactor coming into a second division club, outspending the opposition and turning a struggling club into a top English and European team?".

This is usually met with "it's just wrong" and a plethora of "no history" and City bingo phrases.

I then explain that I was actually talking about their club and if it was okay for them, what's wrong with someone doing the same thing with a club that had finished in the top half of the Premier League the season before. Usually don't have much to say after.

Can I nick that for tonight ? My local is a haven of Scousers.

 

[mancboy]

Because they are laying the groundwork for giving us a reputation that will never go away for cheating and cooking the books whilst their beaus continue to cheat and cook the books and get praised for it?

Why wouldn't blues get pissed off about that?

let me ask you a question if someone on here thinks you're a **** does it bother you?

 

[ballbag]

Because they are laying the groundwork for giving us a reputation that will never go away for cheating and cooking the books whilst their beaus continue to cheat and cook the books and get praised for it?

Why wouldn't blues get pissed off about that?

I personally don't see it that way. I see it as 'journalists' exploiting the emotions of fans of other clubs being so desperate for us to be guilty as a reason to explain why they haven't won anything for years in a bid to attract clicks. The reputations of the 'journalists' who constantly mislead the public with their bullshit would be damaged far more than ours when the charges can't be proven. The athletic might even start offering their piss poor fanzine to people for as little as 1p a year.

All the eggs in a tiny basket.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Whenever a scouser moans about City I start my response by asking "What's wrong with a wealthy benefactor coming into a second division club, outspending the opposition and turning a struggling club into a top English and European team?".

This is usually met with "it's just wrong" and a plethora of "no history" and City bingo phrases.

I then explain that I was actually talking about their club and if it was okay for them, what's wrong with someone doing the same thing with a club that had finished in the top half of the Premier League the season before. Usually don't have much to say after.

belter haha

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I love him and his enthusiasm but his guests make his podcast unlistenable. (The fans I mean, not the ex players)

Usually the ones steaming on away days, or the one lad who thinks he's a tactical expert!

 

[supercity88]

I imagine he's regretting that - it was a mistake as he knew the Talksport knives would be out for anything like that , even with the "if". Apart from that it was pretty good.

He's already been on here to explain how he had to speak objectively in order to be taken seriously and "if" we are found guilty then it's logical to think relegation will be the result. It doesn't matter that they've only taken that part of what was said, it still contains an "if" to quantify it, and it's no different to what plenty, including Stefan have said on other platforms before.

What Stefan has achieved through setting an objective position is enough respect from Jordan to get his acceptance of the point around the lack of cooperation and the fact it's a) incredibly hard to believe that several senior execs and board members from a number of companies were complicit in fraud and; b) even if they had been, incredibly hard to prove - particularly at an independent PL panel which isn't the usual setting for such accusations and will have a different "bar" by which to establish guilt.

 

[oakiecokie]

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Reminds me of Pete The Badge who would place a piece of paper attached to a small stick and plonk it down on a coppers horse shit with the words "Man United were here" ;)

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Reminds me of Pete The Badge who would place a piece of paper attached to a small stick and plonk it down on a coppers horse shit with the words "Man United were here" ;)

Did Pete do those?
Top man.

 

[blue ranger]

I love him and his enthusiasm but his guests make his podcast unlistenable. (The fans I mean, not the ex players)

Totally agree. One are two are ok but I had to stop listening.

 

[bluemonkey71]

In true Nick Harris style, he’s gotten himself confused and completely misinterpreted what the email in question states.

He *thinks* it shows that Diaz was unofficially at the club prior to turning 16, in contravention of the rules and that City covered it up.

What it *actually* shows is that City had agreed to sign him at 16, subject to FA approval.

It also shows that Diaz was coming over to train with the club, which is allowed, so long as the club inform the FA - which the emails say they did - and Cliff advises that he should return to Malaga periodically so as to not be ‘permanently’ in Manchester.

It also suggests that the club would have to enable the Diaz family moving to Manchester ‘for non-football reasons’ - ie the same thing every family of every foreign kid in English football academies has to do and every club has to navigate.

Net result - City and Malaga had agreed a deal for Diaz to join at 16 and were in the process of confirming with the FA. Diaz was training in Manchester, which is allowed and the club registered this with the FA. Harris has either mistakenly or deliberately misread the text in the email. You decide.

*edit to add* as mentioned before, I have a loose connection to the Diaz’s and so know he 100% wasn’t here ‘permanently’ before turning 16. I could expand, but Harris reads this forum religiously and I don’t want to do the work for him.

Harris can get fucked. Needs to go the Priory for a year and turn off the internet. I didn’t mention journalist as he isn’t one, just a desperate attention seeker.

 

[I'm Blue]

The cunts still can't even realise it's nowt to do with FFP....jeez H fuckin Christ ..I despair but why get annoyed.Will calmly wait for epic piss boiling when exonerated

If these are the ‘experts’ that think we’re gonna get relegated I think we’ll be alright.
I’m also sick of hearing about ffp and how our case compares to Everton and Forest.
It doesn’t you thick know nowt cunts.
Oh and it’s not a FUCKING ‘COURT’!!!

 

[I'm Blue]

not a chance

Unfortunately I think you’re right.
Though a few banning orders from the full Etihad campus wouldn’t go a miss.

 

[oakiecokie]

Did Pete do those?
Top man.

He certainly did and there were plenty of horse shit around Maine Road.

 

[Blue Pete]

Nobody tell Mr Harris, but I have evidence that City are guilty of signing Diaz at the age of 2, I have evidence of widespread corruption across a decade between City, the sponsors, the owners, and the Auditors.

But I'm not going to share it. I'm keeping it next my files on the JFK fake assassination, the Moonbase which Elvis set up, and the Roswell Incident where aliens tried to steal Marilyn Monroe from the CIA in order to bring down the Soviet Union and end the secret ruling cabal of fishmongers who were running the country at the time.