PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Keith Moon said:
What worries me the most is that Rui Pinto’s lawyer said, “the decision in the UK could be helpful for him in his defence,” and that he’s handed over more documents and data about European clubs – including stuff connected to the City case.
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Am I being stupid ( probably), but how can someone being banged up in a cell for several years have access to data and documents and to continue to hand over data that’s been hacked illegally and still have a remit to publish what he’s been arrested for in the first place?
 
Keith Moon said:
Silverlake is one of the investors behind Co-op’s owner, OVG. In Abu Dhabi, OVG is partnered with the state-owned entertainment company Ethara, which is the brainchild of Khaldoon and Simon Pearce. Ethara’s chairman is Abdulla Khouri, who is also a board member of City. So, when you buy a beer at Co-op you can be sure that a small portion of the revenue eventually finds its way to our friends in Abu Dhabi.
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Yippee.
 
BLUE THUNDER said:
“More attractive, energetic expansive football”
Which several teams are they ?
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I have to say that our football has become an increasingly hard watch this last couple of years. Whether that is due to teams working out how to play against us, or the squad being less and less capable of doing what Guardiola wants, or our more creative players getting injured more often, I don't think it can be denied that our play has become increasingly slow and "sideways".

I don't think it's unfair to say that many teams have played more "exciting" football the last couple of seasons.

All imho of course.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I have to say that our football has become an increasingly hard watch this last couple of years. Whether that is due to teams working out how to play against us, or the squad being less and less capable of doing what Guardiola wants, or our more creative players getting injured more often, I don't think it can be denied that our play has become increasingly slow and "sideways".

I don't think it's unfair to say that many teams have played more "exciting" football the last couple of seasons.

All imho of course.
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The most exciting thing is to win
 
mexico1970 said:
The words "It's not winning but how you win" has never had more meaning over the last few seasons.

As has "FUCKING SHOOT" instead of constantly passing the ball backwards from crossing and shooting positions.
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Don't care how we win, there's nothing exciting about losing

Which game do you look back on most fondly .... the fairly dour 1-0 win in the 2012 run in against a park the bus rags team or the really exciting seven goal thriller at Old Trafford a few years previously where we conceded at the death to lose it.
 
Axel Freed said:
Don't care how we win, there's nothing exciting about losing

Which game do you look back on most fondly .... the fairly dour 1-0 win in the 2012 run in against a park the bus rags team or the really exciting seven goal thriller at Old Trafford a few years previously where we conceded at the death to lose it.
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Nope, I want a bit of excitement, winning isn't everything.
 
halfcenturyup said:
You must suffer a lot of disappointment in your life if that is your outlook. And probably not experience a lot of excitement.
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I disagree. Success in life isn’t as binary as success in a sporting context, there are many different ways to be a winner in life

Regardless, in one sense fans live vicariously through City and have experienced lots of excitement in the last decade

That said, I think some of the newer fans, for whom going to the match is just another entertaining experience like a trip to the theatre or cinema or a visit to an upmarket shopping mall, don’t mind so much about winning. Football to them isn’t such a tribal affair where seeing your team win is really important - but to a lot of fans that’s what sport is all about.

Back in the bad old days fans didn’t bemoan another disastrous result and say “one day I hope to be well entertained at the match”. They said “please god just let me see city win one thing before I die “
 
Axel Freed said:
I disagree. Success in life isn’t as binary as success in a sporting context, there are many different ways to be a winner in life

Regardless, in one sense fans live vicariously through City and have experienced lots of excitement in the last decade

That said, I think some of the newer fans, for whom going to the match is just another entertaining experience like a trip to the theatre or cinema or a visit to an upmarket shopping mall, don’t mind so much about winning. Football to them isn’t such a tribal affair where seeing your team win is really important - but to a lot of fans that’s what sport is all about.

Back in the bad old days fans didn’t bemoan another disastrous result and say “one day I hope to be well entertained at the match”. They said “please god just let me see city win one thing before I die “
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Fair enough if that is your view, but then there must be a hell of a lot of bored football fans going to the grounds spending their hard earned money every week. For every winner at the end of the season, there 19 losers, of course.

I see it the other way round, tbh. New fans are the ones who will see excitement in winning. Any City fan who is older than about ten and has been going to watch City week after week has found plenty of excitement in the experience other than winning I imagine, luckily for them.
 
Both sides are so desperate to get this over the line but they'll both appeal and it'll drag out till 2026 or something. Meanwhile we'll struggle to get the top players we need whilst Real hoover them all up. Feels like a few windows since the charges announced have set us back years. We can bounce back but I think we need this dinner by summer to turn it around quickly
 
BLUE THUNDER said:
“More attractive, energetic expansive football”
Which several teams are they ?
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Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Bournemouth.

They might not have had consistency in terms of getting results over the course of the season but they were all capable of playing more fluid, incisive, energetic football than our pedestrian relentless passing game which achieved results by just wearing teams down.

In our defence virtually every team we faced simply parked the bus, which could be used as an excuse for our style of play, but it doesn't change the fact that there were teams playing more incisive football than us throughout the season.
 
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