tolmie's hairdoo said:Mister Appointment said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Mate, we are never going to agree on Nasri.
Like you, I thought we should have sold Yaya in the summer and that will come back to bite us on the arse quickly enough.
As for Nasri, you can't give him a get-out-of-jail-free card by stating he is in the team to recycle the ball.
That's a central midfielder's job and we have one of them in Fernandinho. See how Fernandinho showed glimpses of breaking the Bayern lines last night, just to allow us to breathe, pretty exciting, I thought.
He is doing Nasri's and Yaya job for them at present.
I agree that the club should have addressed the problem in the market, but Nasri should never have got a new deal.
Based on his inconsistency, inability to play a faster tempo, allied to his price tag and wages, he should have been used as the solution to rectify the weakness in the market and also demonstrated to Milner there was a consistent route to more starts.
Turn your phone on :)
I agree we aren't going to agree on Sami. I think i can handle the criticisms when he has a poor game and his head drops, but the constant stream of invective about his hunger and desire is just nonsense. He loves playing for City and as I've just said, consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than the rest of our midfield. That to me speaks volumes about the unseen work he does.
With regards ball recycling/Fernandinho. Yes Dinho does that job, but Nasri does it in the attacking half of the pitch. His job is to move inside and give Yaya an angle, give Silva an angle, occupy a full back then give Kola the ball.
Selling Toure kills two birds with one stone, and generates the funds to do proper damage with it.
Get a proper replacement for Toure and that then allows Fernandinho to play higher up and recycle in the Nasri areas of the field. He's better at it and also has a great eye for a pass.
That means we can sell Nasri and raise the type of money to get a decent left-sided attacker.
Missing out on di Maria is a mistake of major proportions.
And it could have been avoided if City had the foresight to have got rid of our two biggest flaws.
Spot on... Look at a freeze frame of most teams when they are in our half . Nasri is jogging back no where near the play. Its great for 'mileage stats' .Then when he's playing one twos he'll give it to Clichy who is running into a dead hole surrounded by defenders but its another 'completed pass'I admire the loyalty of some on here to a City player but to try and justify him as an essential part of our team is deluded. He detract from us unless we are camped in the box of someone like wolves... Just accept he's either good enough but can't be arsed or more likely he's just not good enough. Move onpikku said:Stats are deceiving in this case,just simply runnning around the whole pitch with no intent amounts to no use at all at the end of the day.Exeter Blue I am here said:pikku said:Lol,as to covering more ground,he normally just runs around like a headless chicken and offers nothing defensively,chickens out of tackles,no interceptions,nothing.
Go check out the mileage stats. I don't dispute his ineffectiveness against any top team (his lack of bottle is there for all to see), but it isn't because he isn't trying
onceabluealways said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Mister Appointment said:Turn your phone on :)
I agree we aren't going to agree on Sami. I think i can handle the criticisms when he has a poor game and his head drops, but the constant stream of invective about his hunger and desire is just nonsense. He loves playing for City and as I've just said, consistently covers more ground and completes more passes than the rest of our midfield. That to me speaks volumes about the unseen work he does.
With regards ball recycling/Fernandinho. Yes Dinho does that job, but Nasri does it in the attacking half of the pitch. His job is to move inside and give Yaya an angle, give Silva an angle, occupy a full back then give Kola the ball.
Selling Toure kills two birds with one stone, and generates the funds to do proper damage with it.
Get a proper replacement for Toure and that then allows Fernandinho to play higher up and recycle in the Nasri areas of the field. He's better at it and also has a great eye for a pass.
That means we can sell Nasri and raise the type of money to get a decent left-sided attacker.
Missing out on di Maria is a mistake of major proportions.
And it could have been avoided if City had the foresight to have got rid of our two biggest flaws.
Totally agree although i think we will still need a big presence in the midfield, like pogba
nellyonthewing said:admire the loyalty of some on here to a City player but to try and justify him as an essential part of our team is deluded. He detract from us unless we are camped in the box of someone like wolves...
Mister Appointment said:nellyonthewing said:admire the loyalty of some on here to a City player but to try and justify him as an essential part of our team is deluded. He detract from us unless we are camped in the box of someone like wolves...
You realise that Pellegrini and Mancini have both deemed him essential to our team, AND he has played the majority of games (big and small) in both title winning seasons and has scored huge goals in both run ins.
There's a handful of better players out there, but there aren't any for his position in our squad.
tolmie's hairdoo said:Mister Appointment said:nellyonthewing said:admire the loyalty of some on here to a City player but to try and justify him as an essential part of our team is deluded. He detract from us unless we are camped in the box of someone like wolves...
You realise that Pellegrini and Mancini have both deemed him essential to our team, AND he has played the majority of games (big and small) in both title winning seasons and has scored huge goals in both run ins.
There's a handful of better players out there, but there aren't any for his position in our squad.
He was out the door under Mancini mate, and you know it!
Fernandinho does his job and some.
Mister Appointment said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Mister Appointment said:You realise that Pellegrini and Mancini have both deemed him essential to our team, AND he has played the majority of games (big and small) in both title winning seasons and has scored huge goals in both run ins.
There's a handful of better players out there, but there aren't any for his position in our squad.
He was out the door under Mancini mate, and you know it!
Fernandinho does his job and some.
You miss the point. He was out the door because Mancini wanted to sign another player. There wasn't one in the squad who could do his job in his position. Same still applies.
Yeah but in all fairness, we're not chelsea. We play different football all together and our tactics are different completely.Sergio<3 said:Doesn't offer anything at the moment. Would he get in Chelsea's team? I don't think so
tolmie's hairdoo said:There is no requirement for Nasri in this squad if we can use him to find an upgrade.
middleton___blue said:Yeah but in all fairness, we're not chelsea. We play different football all together and our tactics are different completely.Sergio<3 said:Doesn't offer anything at the moment. Would he get in Chelsea's team? I don't think so
Yeh he didnt play amazing last night but we were playing munich away and as a whole, i thought the team played excellent under the circumstances (minus the result obviously) we were just harshly done by.
Mister Appointment said:tolmie's hairdoo said:There is no requirement for Nasri in this squad if we can use him to find an upgrade.
Mate, how can you say that? What happens when that player is injured? You've no left sided attacker, just as when Nasri's injured we have to rely on Milner. The point is we need another player, more dynamic than Nasri, to give him competition and yeah, to make him more of a squad player especially in the big games. However if you sell Nasri you're back to the same problem of one player in a key position.
Sergio<3 said:Doesn't offer anything at the moment. Would he get in Chelsea's team? I don't think so
uwe rosler 28 said:Great last season new contract and now back to his old lazy self would have preferred to keep lopes not as bad as toure though!
Damanino said:Like Mancini said. He gives about 70-80%. Sometimes little more, sometimes little less.