Political relations between UK-EU

Interesting on how the increase in price breaks down...example used is a bottle of Vidigal Porta which was £4.70 will now be between £7-£8 depending on number of bottles ordered. #BrexitBargain

 
Maybe the graph at the bottom of page 7 is a clue.
Private sector agriculture investment down a massive 41.8% in the year after we voted to leave the EU. Perhaps it's something to do with that, and it appears to have only got worse.
 
I’ve always thought so, that’s why I’ve always been a Eurosceptic before the shite word “Brexit” was ever made up.

The EU isn’t just a trade block when you’re in it, all your laws have to fall inline with theirs if they diverge from them, whether it suits or benefits us as a country or not. I think that’s absolute fucking shit! It does us no good whatsoever.

The EU is in for some turmoil the rise of alternative opinion in Poland and Hungary, and the never ending recessions in Italy Spain and Greece, and we would have had to adopt the Euro eventually which (when you have those struggling counties in the Med) won’t have been good for us or them.

We can make trade and law decisions to suit us as a country, and us only, rather than the suit the EU as an entity.

Once we’ve done this for a few decades, I think we’ll be in a better position than we would have been able to be if we’d stayed with them.
You've been saying all day that certain posters have been on here since day one banging on and on about the same shit, pissing and moaning when they should've been telling their mp's/knocking on doors etc etc.
Then you post that.
If they can still be arsed repeating things, again. to address the points in your post, then those same posters will be back to show you just how wrong most of your reasoning is.
I'll have a go at the easy one (sorry @BobKowalski); We will never, ever, do a trade deal that will suit, ''us, and only us.''
 
Yeah, clearly. That’s why many people voted Leave, so their kids would have a better country to live in.

Do people really think things happen overnight?
Grandkids you mean, plus my kids and their cousins don’t believe it will be a benefit were pretty angry knowing their grandparents had voted leave, still haven’t really forgiven them.
Given all your arguments though I don’t get how you came to see a remain vote as a good idea.
 
Disappointed - are you saying that I gave you more credit that deserved?

Not having that - I am guessing that you actually realise that the answer is that - yes, you could have easily managed this to a smooth transition - but prefer not to admit that

For properly experienced and skilled people it would not even be much of a challenge - and I think that you know that
You are some machine.
Anybody that thinks programme management is as easy as you seem to suggest is no programme manager.
I would never dream of saying I could deliver a programme until I had a really good sniff around in it.
Can I see the absence of disciplines in the Brexit programme, of course I can, can I see how it could of been run better, of course.
But anyone that says it would ‘not even be much of a challenge‘ is a deluded fool or a liar or both.

I was lucky enough to work for and with some of the very best so you questioning my credentials to comment has zero impact.

now when you can free yourself from your self delusions and actually debate the here and now we can talk again. Until that time don’t even bother.
 
Yeah, clearly. That’s why many people voted Leave, so their kids would have a better country to live in.

Do people really think things happen overnight?
A few usually means more than 2 so to be charitable lets say 3. My kids are in their 20s so they'll be in their 50s planning for retirement by then. I'm sure they'll be thrilled.
 
Grandkids you mean, plus my kids and their cousins don’t believe it will be a benefit were pretty angry knowing their grandparents had voted leave, still haven’t really forgiven them.
Given all your arguments though I don’t get how you came to see a remain vote as a good idea.
Because I didn’t want austerity Conservatives leading us through this and thought it was too soon after the 2007 financial crash to leave (we should have been in a better recovered post-crash economic position than we were/are before leaving).

It’ll take longer to see the benefits because of these things, I think we should have waited until about 2030 to leave.

So I voted Remain because of that.
 
Grandkids you mean, plus my kids and their cousins don’t believe it will be a benefit were pretty angry knowing their grandparents had voted leave, still haven’t really forgiven them.
Given all your arguments though I don’t get how you came to see a remain vote as a good idea.

Ironic that you guys are arguing whether the kids will be 45 or 78 before the benefits begin.
 
Ironic that you guys are arguing whether the kids will be 45 or 78 before the benefits begin.
I’m not, don’t think there will be many benefits. Saying it will be decades before we see them and it was for the children which is more likely to be grandchildren is a weak argument though.
May as well tell me it will be fine after your dead and I’m only 57.
 

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