Possible new stadium - some interesting information

[Ticket For Schalke]

we already have the land, so not as expensive as others, if you look at arse for example, they are generating a lot of money, there are plenty of options to turn eastlands into another sporting event, cricket, athletics or something like that.

Lancashire could do with a new cricket gound its not up to test matched standard, that would get my vote

they've had that 32m project accepted have they not, tesco is involved somewhere down the line.

POSTED BY TOLMIE

Two interesting bits of info which was told to me over weekend.

Firstly, the land immediately next to the stadium, we should not take it for granted this will be a separate entity from the stadium, another attraction.

A proposal is on the table to use the land there to "fuse" it as a solution to the increasing of capacity issues.

Could this mean the redevelopment of the entire West Stand, setting it back further and steeper back, incoporating the much-mooted hotel into it?

Secondly, there WILL be a technological aspect to an attraction. They have heard something like an APPLE WORLD - the world's only.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

we already have the land, so not as expensive as others, if you look at arse for example, they are generating a lot of money, there are plenty of options to turn eastlands into another sporting event, cricket, athletics or something like that.

Lancashire could do with a new cricket gound its not up to test matched standard, that would get my vote

great idea, we'd be stealing from the rags end of town too :D

 

[Corky]

Cricket pitches are massive though, there would be no room, plus Lancashire have already started redevelopment.

 

[allan harper]

Cricket pitches are massive though, there would be no room, plus Lancashire have already started redevelopment.

didnt know that, what shame nothing worse than having to past that hole to get to the cricket.

 

[Petetheblu]

Lancashire could do with a new cricket gound its not up to test matched standard, that would get my vote

they've had that 32m project accepted have they not, tesco is involved somewhere down the line.

POSTED BY TOLMIE

Two interesting bits of info which was told to me over weekend.

Firstly, the land immediately next to the stadium, we should not take it for granted this will be a separate entity from the stadium, another attraction.

A proposal is on the table to use the land there to "fuse" it as a solution to the increasing of capacity issues.

Could this mean the redevelopment of the entire West Stand, setting it back further and steeper back, incoporating the much-mooted hotel into it?

Secondly, there WILL be a technological aspect to an attraction. They have heard something like an APPLE WORLD - the world's only.

Well I for one hope it's not a RED apple!!!!!....

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

How much dose eastlands generate on match day ? the price of a new stadium its gonna take along time to get that money back even with extra hospitality box's. supose where in no rush to recoup our out lay

CoMS currently generates less than £1m on a matchday whereas the swamp generates something like £3.25m.

Besides capacity, the reason the swamp generates so much more is that they have something like 15,000 corporate seats whereas I think we have about 2,000. So any increase in capacity up to 60,000 would be mainly corporate.

If we could generate £2.5m a match (and let's assume that includes CL games), this could bring in an extra £40m a season.

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Cricket pitches are massive though, there would be no room, plus Lancashire have already started redevelopment.

didnt know that, what shame nothing worse than having to past that hole to get to the cricket.

ive just told you that you thick so and so.

 

[Corky]

Cricket pitches are massive though, there would be no room, plus Lancashire have already started redevelopment.

didnt know that, what shame nothing worse than having to past that hole to get to the cricket.

'The Point' it is mainly corperate and dwarfs the Pavillion. They are planning more of the same to 'get the ashes back'.

It gives mote corperate hospitality but there does not seem to be any more normal seats.

 

[allan harper]

didnt know that, what shame nothing worse than having to past that hole to get to the cricket.

ive just told you that you thick so and so.

Lol ! come on surely this week you've noticed im not the brightest sparke on here !

 

[Marvin]

How much dose eastlands generate on match day ? the price of a new stadium its gonna take along time to get that money back even with extra hospitality box's. supose where in no rush to recoup our out lay

CoMS currently generates less than £1m on a matchday whereas the swamp generates something like £3.25m.

Besides capacity, the reason the swamp generates so much more is that they have something like 15,000 corporate seats whereas I think we have about 2,000. So any increase in capacity up to 60,000 would be mainly corporate.

If we could generate £2.5m a match (and let's assume that includes CL games), this could bring in an extra £40m a season.

I didn't realise that Utd had 15k Corporate seats. That's an amazing figure.

Are we going to be able to compete with MUFC when they are reportedly seeing marked falls in their corporate attendances? They are not going to go away. Strikes me that Corporates generate a lot of income, and have no real loyalty, but that market will be pretty much fixed.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

CoMS currently generates less than £1m on a matchday whereas the swamp generates something like £3.25m.

Besides capacity, the reason the swamp generates so much more is that they have something like 15,000 corporate seats whereas I think we have about 2,000. So any increase in capacity up to 60,000 would be mainly corporate.

If we could generate £2.5m a match (and let's assume that includes CL games), this could bring in an extra £40m a season.

I didn't realise that Utd had 15k Corporate seats. That's an amazing figure.

Are we going to be able to compete with MUFC when they are reportedly seeing marked falls in their corporate attendances? They are not going to go away. Strikes me that Corporates generate a lot of income, and have no real loyalty, but that market will be pretty much fixed.

They have 45,000 S/T holders, 15,000 corporate seats, 3,000 for away fans and about 10,000 seats on general sale.

Many corporates are not diehard fans and use the facilities for entertaining clients. I know one big international company that has corporate facilities at pretty much every Premiership ground.

The rags have suffered in that market, partly because of the credit crunch but partly because their prices are too high. If you pitch it right, many would take up the package in preference to Old Trafford.

If you got an average £150 for each corporate seat, that's nearly £2m a game. We also have about 34,000 S/T holders so we're not that far short of being able to match them.

 

[squirtyflower]

I didn't realise that Utd had 15k Corporate seats. That's an amazing figure.

Are we going to be able to compete with MUFC when they are reportedly seeing marked falls in their corporate attendances? They are not going to go away. Strikes me that Corporates generate a lot of income, and have no real loyalty, but that market will be pretty much fixed.

They have 45,000 S/T holders, 15,000 corporate seats, 3,000 for away fans and about 10,000 seats on general sale.

Many corporates are not diehard fans and use the facilities for entertaining clients. I know one big international company that has corporate facilities at pretty much every Premiership ground.

The rags have suffered in that market, partly because of the credit crunch but partly because their prices are too high. If you pitch it right, many would take up the package in preference to Old Trafford.

If you got an average £150 for each corporate seat, that's nearly £2m a game. We also have about 34,000 S/T holders so we're not that far short of being able to match them.

that's right
my mate has corporate at both city and united
i've been with him to both, but only once
city's is much better by all accounts and cheaper
united get more going because of the 'prestige' but if city were to be at the top table and in the champions league things could soon change

 

[fbloke]

I have been entertained in the corporate side at OT about a dozen times going back about as many years.

As a guest I was significantly underwhelmed by the food and the atmos' and if truth be told felt like I was a a member of a herd with no personal attention whatsoever.

I hope they get the feel of the old City directors suite at COMS (which i attended for about 2 seasons non-stop) which was cosy and somewhat more exclusive.

I also know from people who still entertain there clients at OT that the offers of reduced prices and additional places are commonplace so they seem to be down about 15% on last year.

At least 2 companies I know directors of are not doing any corporate entertaining at OT at all beacause that no longer 'sells them' to clients. ONe mate says they are looking for more sizzle and less sausage.

 

[squirtyflower]

At least 2 companies I know directors of are not doing any corporate entertaining at OT at all beacause that no longer 'sells them' to clients. ONe mate says they are looking for more sizzle and less sausage.

that's what happens when you base it on MacDonalds rather than the Hilton

 

[jrb]

COMS before the North Stand was added. You can clearly see the point where the current design/capacity of the stadium can be changed.

Note the end of the roof. In essence proving the North Stand roof can be dismantled without it affecting the other sections of the roof. In theory the roof can be taken down, the upper tier can be taken apart and the lower tier can be extended to create a Kop style 25,000 seater stand, with a new roof section being added to the remaining one. That's if the North Stand and the capacity of COMS are going to be increased that way? And that's the big if.

COMS CABE EVALUATION

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[hgblue]

COMS before the North Stand was added. You can clearly see the point where the current design/capacity of the stadium can be changed.

Note the end of the roof. In essence proving the North Stand roof can be dismantled without it affecting the other sections of the roof. In theory the roof can be taken down, the upper tier can be taken apart and the lower tier can be extended to create a Kop style 25,000 seater stand, with a new roof section being added to the remaining one. That's if the North Stand and COMS are going to be increased that way? And that's the big if.

COMS CABE EVALUATION

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.cabe.org.uk/case-studies/city-of-manchester-stadium" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.cabe.org.uk/case-studies/cit ... er-stadium</a>

Where do we play whilst the building work takes place? Or is the intention to play Champions League (hopefully) games with part of the Stadium looking like a building site? I can't see it myself for an extra 13,000 seats. I reckon they'll end up building a new one.

 

[sput the wonder pig]

COMS before the North Stand was added. You can clearly see the point where the current design/capacity of the stadium can be changed.

Note the end of the roof. In essence proving the North Stand roof can be dismantled without it affecting the other sections of the roof. In theory the roof can be taken down, the upper tier can be taken apart and the lower tier can be extended to create a Kop style 25,000 seater stand, with a new roof section being added to the remaining one. That's if the North Stand and the capacity of COMS are going to be increased that way? And that's the big if.

COMS CABE EVALUATION

my only question regards to the roof support which was allready in place without the roof....

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.cabe.org.uk/case-studies/city-of-manchester-stadium" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.cabe.org.uk/case-studies/cit ... er-stadium</a>

 

[allan harper]

Isnt it gonna look silly having one hugh stand compared to the rest of the ground

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Isnt it gonna look silly having one hugh stand compared to the rest of the ground

that's what I'm thinking, as well as the fact that COMS looked shit before it became a footy stadium.

 

[hgblue]

does anyon e seriously belive that our owner will" tinker and fuck about with COMS?"

he has a history and pedigree and desire to produce some of the worlds most iconisc building.

do you really think we will just stick on a few extra seats whilst the rest of the surrounding area is being made to look like Buck rodgers in the 25th century?

we are gonna get a new stadium , its going to be huge and its going to be iconic and amazing and its going to make old trafford look like my back shed!!

Agreed.