The perfect fumble
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Just not enough to win an election.
Not this time.
Just not enough to win an election.
So what happens next.
My guess would be queens speech gets passed. Brexit negotiations start and then when everything is underway May steps down and a new Tory leader is elected. One of: David Davis, Bojo or a.n.other. It will be managed as an accession all agreed internally before it happens.
There was, it was costed with a safety net!Probably because Corbyn and the Labour party sounded like they were telling turkeys how good Christmas was going to be with all the presents, eating, drinking and generally having a fabulous time. But when the turkeys asked how all of this would be paid for there was no explanation.
I think if someone stands up and tells the public they are going to deliver a whole load of things that cannot be delivered, it is the duty of the press to expose it as they see fit. They didn't seek to crucify him because they don't like his beard; it's because they think his policies are barmy. Should they say nothing in those circumstances? I cannot see a problem with saying it how you see it. And before anyone suggests they are in the Tories' pockets, they supported Blair well enough.[/QUOTE
Agreed this pact they want with the DUP does she have to put it to her party to agree, or can she just decide in other words if 10 MPs said fuck off I don't want this will she have the final sayGenuinely don't understand how anyone voted for Tory. Everything they've lied about the opposition doing, they are now doing. Everything they promise, they either fail or u-turn on.
Zero principles, full of lies.
I'll tell you who won this election.
Our foxes.
There was, it was costed with a safety net!
There was, it was costed with a safety net!
Definitely not the party line.
They are rather unsavoury to my taste but they are Pro-brexit, soft irish border. And as it won't be a coalition they only need to vote to pass the queens speech and their job is essentially done.
I was very much of this mind set and thought Corbyn was a busted flush. However what happened in the last week or so with his speeches and rallies, along with spending a lot of time with newly motivated youngsters (being an old timer) I have seen something new and vital emerging.This.
The electorate has been moving to the right for 40 years, to the point that the majority are essentially somewhere between Blair and Cameron, in terms of ideology. For a hard-left party to win, it needs the majority to be brought back to a left-centric position that they haven't had in decades. I don't think this is impossible, but I don't think it can be done quickly, or even over the course of a parliament or two. It would take a decade or more I think for the voting demographic to change sufficiently for Labour to win on their current ticket.