Public sector pay rise

[halfmist]

We have to remember that nearl all the Tax Havens are either Commonwealth countries or British Protectorates

It won’t make any difference and if it did and the Government managed to get its money on it there would be nothing like the amount needed to fund the double digit rises.

 

[law74]

It won’t make any difference and if it did and the Government managed to get its money on it there would be nothing like the amount needed to fund the double digit rises.

As I explained earlier, the pay rises boost the local economy, keeping businesses open, keeping people in employment, earning money and not relying on benefits.
With the rising cost of living, unless people get a rise in wages in line with inflation, there will be pubs, cafes, restaurants, bakers etc closing and the subsequent loss of jobs in companies that supply these businesses.
Trickle down economics does not work.
If the hedge fund manager or the CEO gets more money, it buys them a new sports car, yacht, or is hidden in an offshore account. When a worker gets more money, it means a chippy tea on a Friday night, a meal out, or a new "little black dress etc.
Eat out to help out, or the £100 spend local gimmicks were an attempt to stave off job losses.
A further below inflation pay settlement (cut) will once again stymie the economy resulting in more local businesses closing and more people losing their jobs.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

It is applied to all pal, clapping or showering us with praise at dealing with the wildfires etc, then the next minute offering us an insulting pay rise, they can shove it.

Not sure thats right pal, but we have a wider audience of former clappers here. Any ex clappers clap for us blue lighters and the wider public sector or was it just nurses?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Not sure thats right pal, but we have a wider audience of former clappers here. Any ex clappers clap for us blue lighters and the wider public sector or was it just nurses?

It was extended to key workers by the official campaign behind it.

Police might not have got as much sympathy as health and care workers or retail though, because of having to enforce covid restrictions.

And I doubt ut would have helped that some forces like Derbyshire (drones following moorland walkers) took things too far and it was widely covered in the media.

I stopped doing it after a few weeks because it started to become performative and a social expectation rather than a gesture of thanks.

 

[halfmist]

As I explained earlier, the pay rises boost the local economy, keeping businesses open, keeping people in employment, earning money and not relying on benefits.
With the rising cost of living, unless people get a rise in wages in line with inflation, there will be pubs, cafes, restaurants, bakers etc closing and the subsequent loss of jobs in companies that supply these businesses.
Trickle down economics does not work.
If the hedge fund manager or the CEO gets more money, it buys them a new sports car, yacht, or is hidden in an offshore account. When a worker gets more money, it means a chippy tea on a Friday night, a meal out, or a new "little black dress etc.
Eat out to help out, or the £100 spend local gimmicks were an attempt to stave off job losses.
A further below inflation pay settlement (cut) will once again stymie the economy resulting in more local businesses closing and more people losing their jobs.

But..as I keep saying the money is not there to provide double digit pay rises

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

But..as I keep saying the money is not there to provide double digit pay rises

Lets have more austerity to grow the economy then.

 

[halfmist]

Lets have more austerity to grow the economy then.

You still haven’t answered the question.
In your fantasy Economics, where is the money coming from to give everyone double digit pay rises.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You still haven’t answered the question.
In your fantasy Economics, where is the money coming from to give everyone double digit pay rises.

It comes from borrowing.

 

[oldius]

There is now an estimated 21 trillion pounds hiding in the British territories and the UK is recognised as the global leader in its facilitation. What's clear, to me, is that we could easily afford public sector pay rises, but we choose not to, and twelve years of cutting people's wages, in real terms, has been terrible for the economy.

 

[Blackley_Blue]

They could afford to give the NHS staff a payrise if they stopped the NHS from pissing money up the wall.

I've got 14 years service in, and the money I see wasted on a daily basis is absolutely sickening.

£400 taxi journeys, £millions wasted on a system that's being ripped out after less that 12 months. Having to get trades in on agency because the pay is so shit for the in house ones in comparison they can't recruit, but then paying the agency staff who know fuck all about the hospital/layout £5-10ph more than your own lads.

For the first time in my 14 year career in the NHS, I'm looking at getting out. I can't take it anymore. It's not just the pay though but that's another argument....


Don't ever let anybody tell you the NHS is under funded, far from it!