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[Silva_Spell]

haha ignored? I think you City fans memories only go as far back when it suits you. They were already leaks that Sterling felt undervalued. And to be honest I have no problem Rodgers letting the fans know that a player has been offered contract and we're not going to be held to ransom by the agent who is clearly driving this. Having said this the behaviour of ward and sterling is inexcusable. Stuff like "Even if Liverpool offered him 900k per week we still wouldn't accept it". Very classy! The way they have handled this is inexcusable. I mean fancy faking an illness and refusing to go on tour.

That was clearly in reaction to the 'money grabbing 20 year old' line doing the rounds at the time.

 

[gio's side step]

Agree with most of that mate, apart from the 'responsibility to act with class and dignity and pay 45m+ quickly' . We owe NOTHING to Liverpool, and our mgt team has a responsibility to HHS Mansour to not just pay extra £ms because it would seem the classy thing to do. Liverpool's failures over the last 20+ years have brought them to a state where they cant hold on to their best players - it's not our job to atone for that. LFC's PR approach has been basement level and borderline incitement - they have hung the kid out to dry for a few extra £s - f*ck em I say.

I meant acting with class to just draw an end to this saga and move on. Id rather it be us doing that than them. Just my feeling mate.

 

[philjoneswho?]

Ahhh McMinimum. Those were the days .....

I remember the days we had Kanchelskis before McMinimum fuck me we had some poor right winger before SWP...Sterling will be the best one we have if/when he comes!!

 

[@BluePhil8]

Sky have wheeled out Gerrard for his impartial input on the matter.

 

[squirtyflower]

Agree with most of that mate, apart from the 'responsibility to act with class and dignity and pay 45m+ quickly' . We owe NOTHING to Liverpool, and our mgt team has a responsibility to HHS Mansour to not just pay extra £ms because it would seem the classy thing to do. Liverpool's failures over the last 20+ years have brought them to a state where they cant hold on to their best players - it's not our job to atone for that. LFC's PR approach has been basement level and borderline incitement - they have hung the kid out to dry for a few extra £s - f*ck em I say.

Very much this

 

[Damocles]

Re: the behaviour side of things then it' not been great and he’s unquestionably lost the PR war. This isn’t unique to Raheem Sterling though – Mascherano and Fernando Torres also lost this particular war when they departed – albeit both have pretty much recovered (in relation to the perception of them with Liverpool fans) since.

Yay!

We mercilessly demonised a young lad with a family to the point of making him ill and him having people show up at his house wanting to fill him in and have his phone number leaked so people can text him death threats whilst he sits looking at his little girl, wondering if she has nay idea what's going on.

We're fucking heroes, yay us.

You despicable bunch of cunts, I hope your club burns to the ground after this shit.

 

[Silva_Spell]

Lots of LFC fans are rubbing their hands at the prospect of ripping us off for Sterling and yet at the same time they're also foaming at the mouth at the player for trying all he can not to be priced out of a move.
Work that one out.

 

[CorporateBlue]

I meant acting with class to just draw an end to this saga and move on. Id rather it be us doing that than them. Just my feeling mate.

I think we are acting with class mate (Its what we do now), not a peep out of us the whole time, and 'allegedly' offering £40m package quickly for a 19 year old who has told his current club he is leaving. Not sure what else we can do? Our valuation is our valuation ...

 

[gio's side step]

I think we are acting with class mate (Its what we do now), not a peep out of us the whole time, and 'allegedly' offering £40m package quickly for a 19 year old who has told his current club he is leaving. Not sure what else we can do? Our valuation is our valuation ...

fair point well made

 

[yorknomore]

If we pull out of the deal now it will be worse for the lad so we have to plough on whatever happens,how those scouse bastards irk me.

 

[Three's Kompany]

I've not changed my mind from mid-June (around 500 pages ago) when I said he was £25M and that for £50M we should be getting in 3 decent players. Yes, there might be exceptions for the likes of Pogba, but the £85M we are supposedly trying to spend on De Bruyne and Sterling smacks of mercenary desperation after finishing second in the league and going out of the cups to second rate teams.

Not sure I agree with this. Buying 3 "decent" players for £50M is one reason Spurs and Liverpool have missed out on CL. Spurs brought in Soldado, Lamela, etc. after selling Bale and look where that got them. We need to buy top players and Sterling is already that at age 20. He'll only continue to improve and the money we spent for him will be irrelevant.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Yeah, who needs to fucking defend?! So, with Yaya in the middle, I take it Silva plays #10 and Fernandinho has to hold the entire midfield defensive job AND cover for both marauding full backs?

It might work, but then again, we might see a bunch of 4-5 results, too!!

I've not changed my mind from mid-June (around 500 pages ago) when I said he was £25M and that for £50M we should be getting in 3 decent players. Yes, there might be exceptions for the likes of Pogba, but the £85M we are supposedly trying to spend on De Bruyne and Sterling smacks of mercenary desperation after finishing second in the league and going out of the cups to second rate teams.

I don't think he's worth 50m either, but you'd think if we're going to pay highly for him, he's going to be getting games - which begs the question of our formation and who loses out.

We could in theory go with 3 at the back, but I think it's unlikely, so if we have 4 at the back, Yaya and Fernandinho in the middle, and one of Bony / Serg upfront, that's only 3 places left. Silva will take one of those places, leaving two... IF that was Navas and Sterling, we're very weak in midfield.

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Ah fuck it, offer them the 50m then when they accept pay them in Euros, saving ourselves a further 3-4m.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Do people really care this much about all this? Some pretty grim shouts in here.

Let’s just hope that the deal is done sooner rather than later though – probably at about 45 million so both clubs are happy - and then everyone can move the fuck on.

Liverpool are in need of a decent striker and the only way we’re going to be able to afford one is with the Sterling money.

Sterling’s replacement has already been signed anyway.

Regarding Liverpool not being able to keep their best players these days then yes, it’s probably true to an extent – and is definitely a cause for concern.
That said, of the players we’d have wanted to keep recently – Torres, Mascherano, Alonso, Suarez and now Sterling – we’ve lost three of them to two of the biggest clubs in the world and the other two to the wealthiest. It’s not quite the desperate situation some would have you believe – Torres and Mascherano also left when the time the club was lurching towards, or had just avoided, administration - but certainly does need monitoring / addressing.

Sterling’s a strange one for me – he’s obviously very talented with a shit load of potential – and the flaws in his game (shooting, goalscoring etc) are nothing that can’t be ironed out over time. He’s also looked exceptional at times whilst playing for us (primarily the second half of 2013/14). I actually thought he was shit at the start of that season though when Moses was keeping him out of the side and so you could argue, what the fuck do I know….but I genuinely still haven’t managed to quite work out if he actually is everything that people say he is – as a player, I mean – or, is just the latest in a line of over-hyped youngers. Lack of consistency and the fact that he’s young and still learning the game probably makes this inevitable though.

Re: the behaviour side of things then it' not been great and he’s unquestionably lost the PR war. This isn’t unique to Raheem Sterling though – Mascherano and Fernando Torres also lost this particular war when they departed – albeit both have pretty much recovered (in relation to the perception of them with Liverpool fans) since.

Personally, I think pretty much everyone in the footballing world was working on the basis that the Sterling transfer was a done deal before the start of this week, apart from the agreeing of a price - and that any furore around the transfer had largely died down. Sterling may subsequently have been well advised to keep a lowish profile, not draw too much attention to himself and hope that the deal got done before the tour was due to start. Obviously this hasn’t happened though.

Is this a case of him receiving bad advice from his agent? Who knows……but it’s certainly been an interesting development between Berahino and Ward over the last couple of days…..if he’s back in training today though then that’s definitely a good thing.

Anyway, let’s hope this is resolved soon – we’re definitely in transfer ‘saga’ territory now with this one.

Up the reds!

I wonder if it's down to the fact that he knows it's a done deal, & wants them to sort it out & get it done, rather than have to train/travel with a bunch of people he knows for a fact, he isn't going to be working with & a manager he doesn't like, or trust. Just hoping it would get done, so both he & Liverppool aren't wasting their time going through the motions of training together.

 

[mac]

Do people really care this much about all this? Some pretty grim shouts in here.

Let’s just hope that the deal is done sooner rather than later though – probably at about 45 million so both clubs are happy - and then everyone can move the fuck on.

Liverpool are in need of a decent striker and the only way we’re going to be able to afford one is with the Sterling money.

Sterling’s replacement has already been signed anyway.

Regarding Liverpool not being able to keep their best players these days then yes, it’s probably true to an extent – and is definitely a cause for concern.
That said, of the players we’d have wanted to keep recently – Torres, Mascherano, Alonso, Suarez and now Sterling – we’ve lost three of them to two of the biggest clubs in the world and the other two to the wealthiest. It’s not quite the desperate situation some would have you believe – Torres and Mascherano also left when the time the club was lurching towards, or had just avoided, administration - but certainly does need monitoring / addressing.

Sterling’s a strange one for me – he’s obviously very talented with a shit load of potential – and the flaws in his game (shooting, goalscoring etc) are nothing that can’t be ironed out over time. He’s also looked exceptional at times whilst playing for us (primarily the second half of 2013/14). I actually thought he was shit at the start of that season though when Moses was keeping him out of the side and so you could argue, what the fuck do I know….but I genuinely still haven’t managed to quite work out if he actually is everything that people say he is – as a player, I mean – or, is just the latest in a line of over-hyped youngers. Lack of consistency and the fact that he’s young and still learning the game probably makes this inevitable though.

Re: the behaviour side of things then it' not been great and he’s unquestionably lost the PR war. This isn’t unique to Raheem Sterling though – Mascherano and Fernando Torres also lost this particular war when they departed – albeit both have pretty much recovered (in relation to the perception of them with Liverpool fans) since.

Personally, I think pretty much everyone in the footballing world was working on the basis that the Sterling transfer was a done deal before the start of this week, apart from the agreeing of a price - and that any furore around the transfer had largely died down. Sterling may subsequently have been well advised to keep a lowish profile, not draw too much attention to himself and hope that the deal got done before the tour was due to start. Obviously this hasn’t happened though.

Is this a case of him receiving bad advice from his agent? Who knows……but it’s certainly been an interesting development between Berahino and Ward over the last couple of days…..if he’s back in training today though then that’s definitely a good thing.

Anyway, let’s hope this is resolved soon – we’re definitely in transfer ‘saga’ territory now with this one.

Up the reds!

You mention that Sterling has lost the PR war, well if you think Liverpool have gone about their business in the correct manner then you really are a deluded bunch.You have had every Tom ,dick and mickey ridiculing Sterling and using the istree, Shankly turning in his grave etc excuse to put pressure on the lad.
The lad doesn't want to play for your manager and he can see that by coming to Manchester City he will have a better chance of winning silverware.
Players do not sign for Liverpool for your history ( them days are long gone). It's your PR machine that makes them say that.

 

[Damocles]

Ah fuck it, offer them the 50m then when they accept pay them in Euros, saving ourselves a further 3-4m.

If I had my way we'd pay them £50m just tog et him out from that toxic wasteland and then deliver it in pennies.

 

[Neville Kneville]

You mention that Sterling has lost the PR war, well if you think Liverpool have gone about their business in the correct manner then you really are a deluded bunch.You have had every Tom ,dick and mickey ridiculing Sterling and using the istree, Shankly turning in his grave etc excuse to put pressure on the lad.
The lad doesn't want to play for your manager and he can see that by coming to Manchester City he will have a better chance of winning silverware.
Players do not sign for Liverpool for your history ( them days are long gone). It's your PR machine that makes them say that.

He's right that Sterling has lost the pr war, because the media is full of sycophantic journos who suck up to Liverppol, & rent a quote ex players.

There is no chance anything else can happen.

 

[aguero93:20]

If I had my way we'd pay them £50m just tog et him out from that toxic wasteland and then deliver it in pennies.

Drop them out of a load of dump trucks right in front of Klanfield, put the video up of the riot on the MCFC YouTube channel and we'll make it back in a week.

 

[FanchesterCity]

The only reason Sterling is supposedly losing the PR war is because the Liverpool PR machine is hell bent on painting him as some greedy upstart. Admittedly, Liverpool's assassination job is effective enough for their own fans, but the rest of the world sees through the bullshit.

What right of reply does Sterling have if he has to go through the club to conduct interviews? zilch. And if he does an interview without their permission, he's castigated for that too.

Why can't ex-LFC players simply say they don't know enough about the situation to comment? - but they don't. They all seem to know everything about it.
Phil Neal would have commented, but his fee was probably higher than Sterling's weekly wage.

 

[mac]

He's right that Sterling has lost the pr war, because the media is full of sycophantic journos who suck up to Liverppol, & rent a quote ex players.

There is no chance anything else can happen.

They are just full of bullshit. For example, Danny Ings to Liverpool is a fantastic move yet Sterling to liccle City is the worst move a player can make.