Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

"We should have won that game, the ref's decision isn't the reason we didn't."

Supercity 88, I would certainly agree that there are many reasons why City didn't win the game and City were responsible for most of them, but you have to accept that that decision in injury time was certainly an important one. The idea that a free kick on the half way line gave us a better chance than Jack in the clear, through one on one on the goalkeeper is untenable. Your post seems to be more concerned with a general complaint about behaviour towards referees than a concern with the quality of their decisions. Hence you bring in a complaint about Akanji (which Hooper did not see as a dive) when it is clear that the official in question has a record of making incorrect, game changing decisions this season. City should have won the game but didn't and in the final analysis the last nail in the coffin was probably from a referee not fit to officiate.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

The bald little bastard had the perfect opportunity to put it right. Penalty.

It would have been a fairly soft penalty on Akanji but no different then Haalands at the swamp.

Mistakes/accidents happen. I get it. But no effort to rectify his mistake was criminal.

They got what they wanted out of the result which was a title race.

I would argue if that wasn’t a penalty on Akanji (minimal contact) there was minimal on Allison last week for the disallowed goal

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

Relax guys. It will all even itself out over the season.








Yeah right!

 

[oakiecokie]

When the linesman puts his flag up I think the referee gets notified through his earpiece. The flag stayed down.

It certainly did stay down.

 

[The blue phantom]

If it really was motivated by not wanting us to win the league this year by the authorities, Liverpool and Arsenal wouldn’t have had the decisions that went against them.

Personally I find it worrying how many people seem to genuinely believe it might be corruption rather than incompetence given there’s been errors and contentious decisions made in so many games this season (both favouring and against everyone).

It’s bad enough that they’re as incompetent as they are.

It was a shocker of a decision which any explanation will seem bad. But as you say the Scousers and Arsenal have had terrible decisions which have had PGMOL apologise to them. In fact their fan bases are still convinced we have the Refs in our back pocket and paid off.

 

[melrose40yarder]

If

Supercity 88, I would certainly agree that there are many reasons why City didn't win the game and City were responsible for most of them, but you have to accept that that decision in injury time was certainly an important one. The idea that a free kick on the half way line gave us a better chance than Jack in the clear, through one on one on the goalkeeper is untenable. Your post seems to be more concerned with a general complaint about behaviour towards referees than a concern with the quality of their decisions. Hence you bring in a complaint about Akanji (which Hooper did not see as a dive) when it is clear that the official in question has a record of making incorrect, game changing decisions this season. City should have won the game but didn't and in the final analysis the last nail in the coffin was probably from a referee not fit to officiate.

If when why what we did not win because we hit the post twice and other wank finishing should have been out of sight at HT.

 

[meltonblue]

I would argue if that wasn’t a penalty on Akanji (minimal contact) there was minimal on Allison last week for the disallowed goal

I thought Allison was very lucky but it’s always been a higher bar when it’s an attacking team against a goalkeeper than there is a defender vs an attacker to be fair, I don’t think they’re really comparables.

 

[Metalartin]

Rodri at Everton will be brought up for the next 10 years everytime we get fucked over by the officials won't it?...

And there was an offside in the build-up anyway, wont hear any different until they release the audio where we can hear them going through it. There was never a hint of one being done during the break in play, the first footage from Stockley was on the handball itself and they spent ages on that. NBC used their in-house check which showed they were offside. It's not an unreasonable position to have in light of those facts. After the Liverpool offside against Spurs how can anyone not seriously doubt Lampard's assertion of what the ref said was correct. Example, Lampard: "Was it ruled out for offside ref?" Ref "No they didn't think there was a conclusive enough angle on the handball, nothing to do with offside mate". If the conversation went that way he's not confirmed there was an offside check but Lampard made that conclusion based on "nothing to do with offside". I can see why they wouldn't want to be forthcoming if they didn't do an offside check first too("Thanks NBC, why didn't we think of that? That would have saved us a lot of bother"), it would just make them look incompetent, rather than just indecisive.

Why didn't City demand to see/hear proof there was an offside check done, when Everton were kicking up such a fuss and demanding apologies? It could have saved a lot of moaning.

I really wouldn't be bothered if it was a mistake in our favour(as if Livepool didn't earlier in the same season), I just genuinely think they were so focused on the handball, that they didn't run it back that far because the offside flag didn't go up. It should still be doable because I imagine the audio logs are archived, maybe the video footage too.

It would be absolutely hilarious if we got proof it was offside after how much a of big deal Liverpool fans have made of it for so long(and the rest of the big 6 annoyingly). If it turns out they were onside, it still wasn't conclusive with the angles provided but I'd have wanted a pen myself. So I would concede we got away with one, but it would hardly have been the worst decision of the season and the title WASN'T decided on that call. Everton away wasn't the last game of the season and it was still in City's own hands.

I'd also say, now you know how it feels Livepool fans. All your gloating("cry more we were just better, herritage la") when UEFA's refs shafted City over in both legs of the City vs Liverpool tie...Multiple game changing mistakes in both games, BT Sports doing their best to sweep every mistake under the UEFA rug for them. That was knockout football with no way back.

 

[Blue Mist]

I'll have to agree to disagree. This was an unprecedented error. The fact that there is no rational explanation for such a conscious decision MUST, for the integrity of the game, warrant an explanation, and that explanation cannot be just 'he made a mistake'. Hooper had a thought process in that passage of play, the least city are due is an explanation of that thought process. If his explanation is "I didn't see Grealish" then fine, people may disagree but we all just then move on.

Unprecedented error you say, The Swamp last season I say.
Don't get me wrong, I'm agreeing with you but it's certainly not unprecedented. :-)

 

[Don Karleone]

We should tell them to shove it