Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[Norbiton]

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.

I think the outrage was because it looked identical to the double challenge on Rodri which went unpenalised and led to the red card

 

[MadchesterCity]

It was at the far end of the ground from me, and I haven’t seen a replay- but the in-play Guardian and BBC reports both said it wasn’t even a foul

It wasn't he won the ball

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

He was that bad Dave, if he had any creditability, he'd have sent himself off.!

Well, I did shout, Bill, that when he was booking Jack "Give yerself one, yer useless bald freak!"

 

[JRockBlues]

What I don't understand is why he would "apply a higher bar" in this game. It's pretty obvious that one of the teams will rely on possession and sophisticated tactics, ane one on physicality because they are less skilled. May sound patronising but it's the truth. So the physical team gains an advantage at the expense of the more skilled team. What does the referee expect to happen?

Ignoring the questions of consistency, I can see why it may happen with two "evenly matched" teams, City and Arsenal say, or City and Liverpool (as long as VAR is on the same page), but City and Forest, what is the thought process there?

I said in the Title Race thread a while ago that our biggest threat would be this higher bar nonsense. I was expecting it to result in more injuries due to our higher possession stats. We're obviously going to be fouled more than most other teams just because of that. Not to mention that the recorded stats are just for the fouls that are actually awarded and not where the ref either ignores blatant fouls or just plays advantage (even if there isn't any at times). Wasn't expecting our players to get wound up enough to respond like Rodri did yesterday but it's definitely a factor.

 

[Gordyola]

I don’t think Taylor was even that bad yesterday. Our fanbase have just got a bee in our bonnet about him.

Apart from Foden being fouled right at the start which Taylor should have booked their lad for and a foul on Grealish he waved play-on from… there was nothing else he got wrong really.

It was definitely a red card for Rodri. Gibbs White did fling himself over for no reason, but Rodri still put his hands around his neck… you just can’t do that.

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.

He was his usual self when he refs us there are numerous examples of his bias against City alluded to above
Pep was fuming internally at the press conference about him but , obviously had to be careful what he said Taylor was inconsistent with the way he officiated both teams, there were numerous fouls against City when he waved play-on leaving the City player exasperated as to why, yet virtually ever time he gave them a foul. If you cant see the bias in his officiating then so be it
Not saying it wasn't a red but, Rodri didnt put his hands "around" his neck he placed his hands very briefly either side and certainly no where near sufficient to warrant the reaction from Gibb-Shite who, should have had a yellow for simulation and thus a second red. Have a closer look and you will also see Phil have a cheeky dig

 

[homerdog]

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.

It looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me, so it doesn't make us look daft, as it clearly wasn't a foul...

 

[freshie]

It was at the far end of the ground from me, and I haven’t seen a replay- but the in-play Guardian and BBC reports both said it wasn’t even a foul

It wasn’t a foul. If that had been the rags at old trafford Taylor would’ve waved play on

 

[Blueboy73]

He was his usual self when he refs us there are numerous examples of his bias against City alluded to above
Pep was fuming internally at the press conference about him but , obviously had to be careful what he said Taylor was inconsistent with the way he officiated both teams, there were numerous fouls against City when he waved play-on leaving the City player exasperated as to why, yet virtually ever time he gave them a foul. If you cant see the bias in his officiating then so be it
Not saying it wasn't a red but, Rodri didnt put his hands "around" his neck he placed his hands very briefly either side and certainly no where near sufficient to warrant the reaction from Gibb-Shite who, should have had a yellow for simulation and thus a second red. Have a closer look and you will also see Phil have a cheeky dig

I spotted Phil's dig too and I think Gibbs-Shite caught him on the chest. As Phil turns away as he puts his hand against his chest as if reacting to being struck as he walks away.
He dodged Lineker when asked in the post match interview by saying he hadn't seen it back.
That odious turd Gibbs-Shite is godfather to Phil's son and I'm sure something was said to make Rodri react and Phil knows this but it's pure speculation on my part and i doubt we'll ever know for sure.

 

[Chris in London]

I don’t think Taylor was even that bad yesterday. Our fanbase have just got a bee in our bonnet about him.

Apart from Foden being fouled right at the start which Taylor should have booked their lad for and a foul on Grealish he waved play-on from… there was nothing else he got wrong really.

It was definitely a red card for Rodri. Gibbs White did fling himself over for no reason, but Rodri still put his hands around his neck… you just can’t do that.

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.

The barge in the back was exactly what Gibbs White did to Rodri - twice - immediately before the red card incident. If Taylor had blown his whistle the first time - as he later did for their Philips foul - the red card incident doesn’t happen.

When something is an obvious foul for the team in red but is ‘play on’ for the team in blue that is either incompetent or dishonest, and Taylor is reckoned to be one of the best referees in Europe.

Go figure.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

It looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me, so it doesn't make us look daft, as it clearly wasn't a foul...

It was shoulder-to-back from behind. Their lad was facing the stand.

You have to both be running side-by-side in the same direction the ball is travelling and hit shoulder-to-shoulder for it to be a legal shoulder charge.