True but it did have influence on our ability to get back into it in extra time. I’d be surprised if there was even 15 mins actually played in extra time, and even that was allowed to be completely disrupted by Madrid time wasting and other shithousery. Yes we lost, I am gutted but have to accept it, but I am not sure why I have to accept constant cheating from uefa and PGMOL?Shit but had no influence on the the two goals.
I am giving him the night off and fingers crossed Liverpool will get someone similar in final. Someone who doesn't allow the Dips getting upto their usual antics as well.True but it did have influence on our ability to get back into it in extra time. I’d be surprised if there was even 15 mins actually played in extra time, and even that was allowed to be completely disrupted by Madrid time wasting and other shithousery. Yes we lost, I am gutted but have to accept it, but I am not sure why I have to accept constant cheating from uefa and PGMOL?
He tapped his watch in the first half to indicate he was adding time on when he thought we were time wasting. No such watch tapping during extra time.True but it did have influence on our ability to get back into it in extra time. I’d be surprised if there was even 15 mins actually played in extra time, and even that was allowed to be completely disrupted by Madrid time wasting and other shithousery. Yes we lost, I am gutted but have to accept it, but I am not sure why I have to accept constant cheating from uefa and PGMOL?
Wasn't that Casemiro or did Rodrygo do something I missed?Apart from the guy scoring shouldn't have been on the pitch?
I really couldn’t give a fuck about the final now mate. Just win the league, and I hope Chelsea win the cup. Not sure how the ref will be able to cope in the final given it’s 2 uefa history clubs in itI am giving him the night off and fingers crossed Liverpool will get someone similar in final. Someone who doesn't allow the Dips getting upto their usual antics as well.
Yeah, you are right. They should have been down to 10 though and before HT.Wasn't that Casemiro or did Rodrygo do something I missed?
The ref was poor tonight, but it was our poor game management for not closing the game out which cost us.This is what the knicker wetters don’t seem to realise. When playing other top teams like dippers and Madrid the margins are actually very fine and refs make a huge difference, one way or the other. Dippers 45 league games without a pen against is such an obvious cheat, Milner not getting sent off, TAA playing basketball in the area, offside goals not VAR’d, both Madrid teams getting away with murder, it’s simply not 11 v 11. Yes we fucked up today, but we get fucked over more or less every week. And now the irony of another pen not given v dippers and Lampard being done for some incredibly mild comments. Fucking blatant corruption
They manage to do it in Rugby and it works well.It's been said for years that we need visability of the clock being stopped etc. Must be the easiest thing to resolve but it's never been done.
It definitely raised suspicions.
I thought so.Yeah, you are right. They should have been down to 10 though and before HT.
Yeah but football doesn't want technology. VAR, hawkeye and microphone communication don't count. Or spray cans.They manage to do it in Rugby and it works well.
Football's not a game where you can stop the clock whenever the ball isn't in play. Clive Thomas, in his autobiography writes that he did this once when he started refereeing, and the game lasted more than four hours. American football does this, and their games are often over four hours from start to finish.It's been said for years that we need visability of the clock being stopped etc. Must be the easiest thing to resolve but it's never been done.
It definitely raised suspicions.
The thing is, if the clock was stopped everytime the ball went out of play or for a free kick, injuries(fake)etc it would negate the need to timewaste so teams wouldn't do it.Football's not a game where you can stop the clock whenever the ball isn't in play. Clive Thomas, in his autobiography writes that he did this once when he started refereeing, and the game lasted more than four hours. American football does this, and their games are often over four hours from start to finish.
I remember a few years ago, the authorities declared that as football was an entertainment business, they should encourage more goals, and law amendments, for offside etc., took this into consideration.
Then VAR came in, and all that was done away with.
Extra time is a complete joke though. It favours time-wasting teams and anti-football. Courtois taking the ball to the opposite side for every goal kick? This law amendment was introduced to get the ball in play quicker from a goal kick, so don't let teams misuse the law. Players feigning injury. Ok, the first one might be genuine, but when the same player repeats the obvious trick two minutes later, don't stop play for him. Make him walk off the pitch for treatment. When 30 seconds is the recommended time to add back on following a substitution or a goal, actually apply that recommendation.
But we have reached the point where we do need some sort of verification on time lost during the match. Who decided on three minutes last night, and how was that selected? It's just so arbitrary, and it flies in the face of fair play and encouraging entertaining football.
Personally I think the result and the ref are 2 different things. We absolutely failed to close the game out and neither of their 2 goals were the fault of the referee. BUT as a separate issue the performance of the referee was once again shocking and once again seemingly anti-City and pro-“history team”. How he could allow 2 mins and 3 mins injury time in each half of extra time, and his complete inability to control madrids blatant time wasting and fouling, was utterly disgraceful. In fact it wasn’t inability, he just clearly didn’t want to, he was more keen to fist bump Luca midrib. The fact that he failed to book Madrid players for clear yellow card offences. His regular not giving us free kicks, indeed giving them free kicks for fouls on our players. All of the above was blatant anti-City game management that affected the result, or affected our ability to get a result. It’s the same in the PL, how the fuck do the dippers go 47 games in the PL without having a penalty given against them, double the previous record of ANY team in the PL EVER? Let’s be clear, this is absolutely and clearly corrupt and is about brand and money - in England it’s about what the premier league’s refs can do to assist the 2 clubs with significantly the hugest fan base; ffs the former long term head of the PL openly said that it’s good for the PL for united and liverpool to win it - if that’s what is said in public just what the fuck is being said in private? What’s being discussed in PIGMOB hq to help the PL “brand”. It’s the same in Europe - the refereeing performances are clearly biased towards the “history clubs”, those with the biggest world wide fan bases, those who uefa feel add most significantly to their coffers, such as Real, Barcelona, Bayern, Juventus, united and liverpool.The ref was poor tonight, but it was our poor game management for not closing the game out which cost us.
Some will say Walker was lucky not to get a red tonight.
There’s lots of instances where we can look at other teams and say they got lucky, the ref was on their side etc, but it swings in roundabouts. I don’t think I need to mention our game against Arsenal, Wolves and Everton. 3 wins, which could have easily been 3 draws had VAR stayed neutral, that’s 6 points that we may not have got, many will say that VAR have handed us the PL title on the back of that.
You look at Liverpool, Chelsea and Utd, all 3 have had decisions go their way, apart from Utd though I’m not sure Chelsea or Liverpool have had ones that have had any real effect on the final result though.
Tonight was disappointing, but we move on to the next game and I as much as everyone else feel frustrated and want to blame the refs and how corrupt UEFA and the PL are, but EVERY team gets decisions for and against them.
Ha ha - nice try, you don't think Liverpool have had ones that have affected the final result???The ref was poor tonight, but it was our poor game management for not closing the game out which cost us.
Some will say Walker was lucky not to get a red tonight.
There’s lots of instances where we can look at other teams and say they got lucky, the ref was on their side etc, but it swings in roundabouts. I don’t think I need to mention our game against Arsenal, Wolves and Everton. 3 wins, which could have easily been 3 draws had VAR stayed neutral, that’s 6 points that we may not have got, many will say that VAR have handed us the PL title on the back of that.
You look at Liverpool, Chelsea and Utd, all 3 have had decisions go their way, apart from Utd though I’m not sure Chelsea or Liverpool have had ones that have had any real effect on the final result though.
Tonight was disappointing, but we move on to the next game and I as much as everyone else feel frustrated and want to blame the refs and how corrupt UEFA and the PL are, but EVERY team gets decisions for and against them.
The ref was poor tonight, but it was our poor game management for not closing the game out which cost us.
Some will say Walker was lucky not to get a red tonight.
There’s lots of instances where we can look at other teams and say they got lucky, the ref was on their side etc, but it swings in roundabouts. I don’t think I need to mention our game against Arsenal, Wolves and Everton. 3 wins, which could have easily been 3 draws had VAR stayed neutral, that’s 6 points that we may not have got, many will say that VAR have handed us the PL title on the back of that.
You look at Liverpool, Chelsea and Utd, all 3 have had decisions go their way, apart from Utd though I’m not sure Chelsea or Liverpool have had ones that have had any real effect on the final result though.
Tonight was disappointing, but we move on to the next game and I as much as everyone else feel frustrated and want to blame the refs and how corrupt UEFA and the PL are, but EVERY team gets decisions for and against them.