Lucky13 said:Which Club had the fewest injuries last season?
Absolutely, Dzeko it would appear is not prepared to hang around and prove himself, also Bobs mistakes are part of his journey with city. If for example he had not purchased Edin, we might not of won the league.<br /><br />-- Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:09 pm --<br /><br />kalouk said:i8rags said:Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.robbieh said:I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.
The reasons are very clear.
1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is a bad slant on Bob. Bad slant on Bob = numpty.
It's a bit harsh to assume people who disagree are somehow disrespecting Mancini. It's just pointing out the other side of the argument and we all know it matters not a bit what we think or say. Surely your argument could be flipped the other way by saying that Mancini wanted Dzeko but now people are saying he is not good enough, therefore questioning Bobbys judgement, are they numptys?
Agreed fella, although not wanting a player coz he's a **** makes that fella a numpty to me.dctid said:i8rags said:Your missing the point mate which is why I said sick of arguing with numptys.robbieh said:I don't want him and don't regard myself as a numpty.
The reasons are very clear.
1. Despite being a great PL striker for one season he is 28 and injury prone.
2. He is also a ****. Just like Rooney who I would also not welcome. Remember the Adebayor incident
3. We already have 4 extremely good strikers who compliment each other well. Luckily two of them Kun and Edin are quality pros who don't cause trouble. Imagine if we had Balo. CT and RVP. Incendiary stuff.
4. If Tevez or Dzeko wanted leave there are younger alternatives to VP. Think Cavani and Falcao.
It doesn't matter a jot if you don't fancy him or if I do, the point is Mancini does and any argument against is a bad slant on Bob. Bad slant on Bob = numpty.
This is a football forum fella where people post and discuss issues - that is the point of such forums - if you dont want to argue dont - but if you dont like other peoples opinions then stick to the official web site.
Such wit you possessWorst Case Ontario said:Fuck Robin Van ****, we already got 4 amazing strikers, 2 are better than him(That is if Judas stays)
Who said drugs dont work?Worst Case Ontario said:Fuck Robin Van ****, we already got 4 amazing strikers, 2 are better than him(That is if Judas stays)
I agree mate, the earlier post a couple above yours is the kind of thing I've been trying to argue against but I give up. Genuine reasons for concern I get but the he's a **** brigade do my head in.kalouk said:i8rags, I asked this earlier but has Dzeko actually said he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place? I have only seen him say he wants to stay, his agent saying the same and bobby saying he is happy with his strikers. I appreciate they are not going to lay their business out for everyone, so is it just a rumour he won't stay and fight or have I missed an article or something. Thanks. Also I agree about mistakes being part of Bobbys journey and don't feel Dzeko was one. I just felt that by dismissing people as numptys for having reservations about RVP is no different to people having reservations about keeping Dzeko. :)
i8rags said:Who said drugs dont work?Worst Case Ontario said:Fuck Robin Van ****, we already got 4 amazing strikers, 2 are better than him(That is if Judas stays)
kalouk said:i8rags, I asked this earlier but has Dzeko actually said he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place? I have only seen him say he wants to stay, his agent saying the same and bobby saying he is happy with his strikers. I appreciate they are not going to lay their business out for everyone, so is it just a rumour he won't stay and fight or have I missed an article or something. Thanks. Also I agree about mistakes being part of Bobbys journey and don't feel Dzeko was one. I just felt that by dismissing people as numptys for having reservations about RVP is no different to people having reservations about keeping Dzeko. :)
i8rags said:I agree mate, the earlier post a couple above yours is the kind of thing I've been trying to argue against but I give up. Genuine reasons for concern I get but the he's a **** brigade do my head in.kalouk said:i8rags, I asked this earlier but has Dzeko actually said he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place? I have only seen him say he wants to stay, his agent saying the same and bobby saying he is happy with his strikers. I appreciate they are not going to lay their business out for everyone, so is it just a rumour he won't stay and fight or have I missed an article or something. Thanks. Also I agree about mistakes being part of Bobbys journey and don't feel Dzeko was one. I just felt that by dismissing people as numptys for having reservations about RVP is no different to people having reservations about keeping Dzeko. :)
With regard to Dzeko I can only gather opinion from what I hear and read etc, it would appear both camps would not be adverse to him leaving, although loyalty clauses for Edin and keeping his value high for the club is why the statements appear to contradict this.
Last season I wanted him to perform more than anyone else but he didn't. Maybe one more season might prove us right or wrong. If RvP performs anywhere near last seasons standard, it's got to be the way forward for me.kalouk said:i8rags said:I agree mate, the earlier post a couple above yours is the kind of thing I've been trying to argue against but I give up. Genuine reasons for concern I get but the he's a **** brigade do my head in.kalouk said:i8rags, I asked this earlier but has Dzeko actually said he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place? I have only seen him say he wants to stay, his agent saying the same and bobby saying he is happy with his strikers. I appreciate they are not going to lay their business out for everyone, so is it just a rumour he won't stay and fight or have I missed an article or something. Thanks. Also I agree about mistakes being part of Bobbys journey and don't feel Dzeko was one. I just felt that by dismissing people as numptys for having reservations about RVP is no different to people having reservations about keeping Dzeko. :)
With regard to Dzeko I can only gather opinion from what I hear and read etc, it would appear both camps would not be adverse to him leaving, although loyalty clauses for Edin and keeping his value high for the club is why the statements appear to contradict this.
Thanks for replying. I suppose if it suits both sides then it's for the best, still a shame for me as I like him as a person and felt he did contribute to our season more than he sometimes gets credit for. As far as RVP goes I can't help feeling that this isn't the right move for us and maybe he hit his peak with last seasons amazing performance, it's just a niggling feeling, but what the hell do I know, if I did I'd be earning millions instead of Bobby. As you say, best to leave it Mancini's hands.
allan harper said:kalouk said:i8rags, I asked this earlier but has Dzeko actually said he doesn't want to stay and fight for his place? I have only seen him say he wants to stay, his agent saying the same and bobby saying he is happy with his strikers. I appreciate they are not going to lay their business out for everyone, so is it just a rumour he won't stay and fight or have I missed an article or something. Thanks. Also I agree about mistakes being part of Bobbys journey and don't feel Dzeko was one. I just felt that by dismissing people as numptys for having reservations about RVP is no different to people having reservations about keeping Dzeko. :)
I like Dzeko, I wanted us to sign him he's class but last season he didn't half piss me off at times. Saying that I think he'd do well given another season but if it's a choice between him or Van P I'd go Dutch every time.
DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:Am I the only person that doesn't think we need another striker? We already have four excellent strikers, why should we bench Dzeko and Balotelli?
i8rags said:Foolish, your points are nothing to do with bobs transfer policy, come back with a related argument.Rocket-footed kolarov said:i8rags said:John cross mirror journo and so called Arsenal expert was on talkshite today and he said, Mancini is desperate to sign RvP. Also Arsenal themselves are accusing us of tapping up RvP,
But of course it's coz TH said so. On a further note, if you questioned Mancinis judgement at any time then surely you have been proved wrong.
That is foolish to think that way, Mancini has admitted several times that he had mistakes at Everton and liverpool (in 10-11) perhaps, I did n't say I think we should sack him but to think a manager can do no wrong is misguided as is taking anything said by a supposed ITK on an internet forum (who uses Youtube videos to communicate) as gospel.