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robin van persie (continued)
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Forzacitizens
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Hope we hear some news this week.
odds-on it will drag on all Summer and kick off again in the Autumn as the next window approaches. Clubs put off by a big fee and wages given his age, and he is not going to sign a new contract when he can walk in the summer.Forzacitizens said:Hope we hear some news this week.
I think AC Milan may make a couple of big buys, and chelsea may buy a striker, but the odds are that the saga is only just beginning.
BillyShears
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This pursuit of Van Persie seems odd to me. I know people keep saying that the gaffer really wants him, but hasn't it been Brian Marwood who's pushed for the Arsenal players we've signed previously? I believe the gaffer when he says he's got four top strikers and he's happy with them.
If we were to sign him and subsequently let go of either Dzeko or Tevez I personally think that would be bad business on our part. Everything about this Van Persie transfer screams rip off from the fee Arsenal want to the wages he will want.
If we were to sign him and subsequently let go of either Dzeko or Tevez I personally think that would be bad business on our part. Everything about this Van Persie transfer screams rip off from the fee Arsenal want to the wages he will want.
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I mentioned weeks ago that I'd heard that rvp wanted us and talks between Rvp agents and ourselves had taken place. Even his agent admitted that he'd been to the etihad for a meeting with us! My uncle does insurance work for a couple of tha arsenal board members and when they go out drinking together loose tongues start talking and obviously being a city fan he asks about stuff and let's me know. Throughout the whole nasri transfer I said it would happen and it got held back purely because of wenger. Do u remember the pics that he was putting up on his twitter? Meeting paddy and constantly talking to nasri etc? And his tweets normally have deeeecent in them now?! Coincidence??Stuuuuuu said:richards30 said:Remember not to believe the media or fans of any other team mate.
richards30 said:Edin will go mate, once Rvp joins edin will leave with our blessing. As has been mentioned rvp wants trophies! He already earns a huge amount in real life terms and can afford anything he wants! He wants honours and we can give him that chance.
You say not to believe other people, then you make a speculative comment!
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What always baffles me about the media is that player acquisition is Marwood's responsibility yet player sales is bizarrely Mancini's job?
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Mister Appointment said:This pursuit of Van Persie seems odd to me. I know people keep saying that the gaffer really wants him, but hasn't it been Brian Marwood who's pushed for the Arsenal players we've signed previously? I believe the gaffer when he says he's got four top strikers and he's happy with them.
If we were to sign him and subsequently let go of either Dzeko or Tevez I personally think that would be bad business on our part. Everything about this Van Persie transfer screams rip off from the fee Arsenal want to the wages he will want.
I agree with this. Whilst the majority seem to be desperate for RVP to join us I have major doubts as to whether this really would be a good bit of business by City. The fee is wrong, the wages astronomical and quite frankly I'd be happy to stick with the strikers we have. We need to concentrate on other areas and it looks like our attention is being unnecessarily wasted on a guy who sounds like he'd rather go to ManUre anyway.....
Two problems:Mister Appointment said:This pursuit of Van Persie seems odd to me. I know people keep saying that the gaffer really wants him, but hasn't it been Brian Marwood who's pushed for the Arsenal players we've signed previously? I believe the gaffer when he says he's got four top strikers and he's happy with them.
If we were to sign him and subsequently let go of either Dzeko or Tevez I personally think that would be bad business on our part. Everything about this Van Persie transfer screams rip off from the fee Arsenal want to the wages he will want.
1) No great footballing reason to swap RVP for Dzeko or Tevez or even Mario
2) It would be very costly
3) Even if we got over 1 and 2 we'd then have to find a buyer for the displaced player and that wouldn't be easy. Remember the saga with Tevez in the last transfer window when we coudn't find a buyer even when he was at logger-heads with City
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Marvin said:Two problems:Mister Appointment said:This pursuit of Van Persie seems odd to me. I know people keep saying that the gaffer really wants him, but hasn't it been Brian Marwood who's pushed for the Arsenal players we've signed previously? I believe the gaffer when he says he's got four top strikers and he's happy with them.
If we were to sign him and subsequently let go of either Dzeko or Tevez I personally think that would be bad business on our part. Everything about this Van Persie transfer screams rip off from the fee Arsenal want to the wages he will want.
1) No great footballing reason to swap RVP for Dzeko or Tevez or even Mario
2) It would be very costly
3) Even if we got over 1 and 2 we'd then have to find a buyer for the displaced player and that wouldn't be easy. Remember the saga with Tevez in the last transfer window when we coudn't find a buyer even when he was at logger-heads with City
Because he is better.
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city diehard said:Because he is better.
Statistically Tevez and Dzeko are better than RVP. Not saying they are better players right now, but I'm not convinced that Van Persie's one season goal glut automatically makes him better than those two either. It's very hard to judge and I believe sometimes it's better the devil you know.
Feelers may well have been put out but thats a long way from a transfer.richards30 said:I mentioned weeks ago that I'd heard that rvp wanted us and talks between Rvp agents and ourselves had taken place. Even his agent admitted that he'd been to the etihad for a meeting with us! My uncle does insurance work for a couple of tha arsenal board members and when they go out drinking together loose tongues start talking and obviously being a city fan he asks about stuff and let's me know. Throughout the whole nasri transfer I said it would happen and it got held back purely because of wenger. Do u remember the pics that he was putting up on his twitter? Meeting paddy and constantly talking to nasri etc? And his tweets normally have deeeecent in them now?! Coincidence??Stuuuuuu said:richards30 said:Remember not to believe the media or fans of any other team mate.
richards30 said:Edin will go mate, once Rvp joins edin will leave with our blessing. As has been mentioned rvp wants trophies! He already earns a huge amount in real life terms and can afford anything he wants! He wants honours and we can give him that chance.
You say not to believe other people, then you make a speculative comment!
Every Summer Vieira was leaving Arsenal and was in discussion with foreign clubs but it never happened
The bit I don't get is that most on here are claiming that RvP will be brought in as a replacement for Dzeko.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
Soulboy said:The bit I don't get is that most on here are claiming that RvP will be brought in as a replacement for Dzeko.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
Fair point. It will definitely be hard to keep everyone happy if he comes in place of Dzeko. It could be more harmful than good, as players need steady runs of games to gain form also, so If Mancini starts tinkering too much in order to keep people happy it could be to the detriment of the team. My head is in a bloody tizzy over this whole RVP debacle. I wish it would end soon. RVP or no RVP, we definitely need a top class midfielder to partner Yaya. As people have said De Rossi would be fucking ideal. Barry is a good first teamer at this stage, but his legs are going and he will not be enough in the big games imo.
Soulboy said:The bit I don't get is that most on here are claiming that RvP will be brought in as a replacement for Dzeko.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
No cover for Kompany? No cover for Yaya? Passing on the chance to sign a superb striker like RVP? You're right that we could go for it and hope for no injuries to our key men (Kompany, Yaya and Aguero), but I don't see why we should.
These guys are reporting that we've made a bid for RVP.
<a class="postlink" href="http://freshfootball.co.uk/#/blog/4560568303/Manchester-City-New-Bid-for-Arsenal-Star/3082547" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://freshfootball.co.uk/#/blog/45605 ... ar/3082547</a>
I doubt they're reliable at all but it was tweeted by an Arsenal fan who is known as one of their ITK's.
<a class="postlink" href="http://freshfootball.co.uk/#/blog/4560568303/Manchester-City-New-Bid-for-Arsenal-Star/3082547" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://freshfootball.co.uk/#/blog/45605 ... ar/3082547</a>
I doubt they're reliable at all but it was tweeted by an Arsenal fan who is known as one of their ITK's.
hgblue said:Soulboy said:The bit I don't get is that most on here are claiming that RvP will be brought in as a replacement for Dzeko.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
No cover for Kompany? No cover for Yaya? Passing on the chance to sign a superb striker like RVP? You're right that we could go for it and hope for no injuries to our key men (Kompany, Yaya and Aguero), but I don't see why we should.
No cover for Kompany? Kolo, Savic and Richards spring to mind, with Rekik for the Carling Cup games. Yaya? I do think we need to prioritise a midfielder, but even so we still have de Jong and Milner in reserve. And Razak, Suarez for the Carling Cup.
We are not down to bare bones. Chill.
Soulboy said:hgblue said:Soulboy said:The bit I don't get is that most on here are claiming that RvP will be brought in as a replacement for Dzeko.
So RvP is going to be our new 4th. choice striker is he?
If RvP comes (and personally I do think he will end up here) he's coming to replace Tevez and Balotelli as Aguero's partner.
This means Balotelli will likely be our new 4th. choice striker... and that's a good idea?
And even if the sales of Adebayor/RSC/Teve/Dzeko are going to determine whether or not we pursue RvP... what has this to do with our other transfer targets in midfield and at the back? Surely they are separete issues?So why are we holding back on the other potential deals?
Like I said at the start of the transfer window, I think we could go again with what we've got. And if it means consigning Adebayor and RSC to the Carling Cup campaign then so be it.
Arsenal, Chelsea and the rags signings have still not made them better than us.
No cover for Kompany? No cover for Yaya? Passing on the chance to sign a superb striker like RVP? You're right that we could go for it and hope for no injuries to our key men (Kompany, Yaya and Aguero), but I don't see why we should.
No cover for Kompany? Kolo, Savic and Richards spring to mind, with Rekik for the Carling Cup games. Yaya? I do think we need to prioritise a midfielder, but even so we still have de Jong and Milner in reserve. And Razak, Suarez for the Carling Cup.
We are not down to bare bones. Chill.
I'm chilled mate, but if I were the manager charged with defending the title and having a serious attempt at the Champions League, I'd want better cover for Kompany than Kolo or Savic, and better cover for Yaya than Milner or De Jong (Martinez would be perfect because he'd kill two birds with one stone). I'd also want to sign a top striker like RVP should he be available, and I'd be prepared to sacrifice Dzeko to get him. Standing still is rarely a wise option if you're sights are set high.
hgblue said:Soulboy said:hgblue said:No cover for Kompany? No cover for Yaya? Passing on the chance to sign a superb striker like RVP? You're right that we could go for it and hope for no injuries to our key men (Kompany, Yaya and Aguero), but I don't see why we should.
No cover for Kompany? Kolo, Savic and Richards spring to mind, with Rekik for the Carling Cup games. Yaya? I do think we need to prioritise a midfielder, but even so we still have de Jong and Milner in reserve. And Razak, Suarez for the Carling Cup.
We are not down to bare bones. Chill.
I'm chilled mate, but if I were the manager charged with defending the title and having a serious attempt at the Champions League, I'd want better cover for Kompany than Kolo or Savic, and better cover for Yaya than Milner or De Jong (Martinez would be perfect because he'd kill two birds with one stone). I'd also want to sign a top striker like RVP should he be available, and I'd be prepared to sacrifice Dzeko to get him. Standing still is rarely a wise option if you're sights are set high.
You might not rate the players I've mentioned but clearly the manager does. And I'd go with that at the moment.
And you don't mind Balotelli becoming our 4th. choice striker? You are getting spoiled mate!
I'm sure we will strengthen, I just don't understand the panic on here with it all.
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