Russian invasion of Ukraine

[west didsblue]

Missed that one. What was it about?

Ben Wallace was on GMB and was asked if he agreed with Liz Truss's comments. He said no and recommended people who wanted to join an army to apply to the British one.

 

[metalblue]

On the other hand, the scientific studies that took place at around the time of the Threads broadcast and similar indicated that it would take less than 1% of the global stockpile to generate a devastating nuclear winter. If the Russians have only 10% of the arsenal they possessed in the 80s it still wouldn't take a huge proportion to end life as we know it in the northern hemisphere.

Which is possibly the safest guarantee, because even a widescale nuclear exchange limited to Europe would also have a devastating effect on China. They might well have had a word on that front.

I’m no expert mate but I think it’s more about modern warheads are typically air burst rather than ground burst which were the type when I was a kid in the 70/80s. Ground burst sticks shit in the air which creates nuclear winter and that’s what we’ve grown up knowing.

In any case there are no winners in a nuclear conflict, even those who don’t participate - like you say. I agree with you; China has a lot to lose so might be able to talk Putin off the ledge if he ever gets past the theatrics of threats and actually, god forbid, means it!

 

[bobmcfc]

Privately the talks will be directed at the Generals, the Oligarchs.Sowing the seeds of doubt that Putin is of sound mind and persuading them their assets will be returned if they act. Those hit biggest financially will certainly not be happy with what's going on. Hopefully we can convince Russia to deal with Russia without having to get our hands dirty

 

[metalblue]

Sky reporting out of Moscow that Russia has moved up its nukes to “combat readiness”.

Literally no logic to that whatsoever

 

[bluejon]

Ben Wallace was on GMB and was asked if he agreed with Liz Truss's comments. He said no and recommended people who wanted to join an army to apply to the British one.

This whole conflict is showing up what a bunch of complete amateurs we currently have in charge of our country. Liz Truss is a fucking idiot.

 

[Blue_eyes]

I visited Hack Green (Nantwich) nuclear bunker only a month ago.

perhaps I should have stayed :-(

I can see its aerial from my window, just prey that the ruskies know its now obsolete and have removed it from their hit list.

On a side note, we visited it years ago, and in the comms room set up ready for post apocalyptic communications etc, there was a "tax officer" desk.

Obviously our government dont intend the trifling issue of a nuclear war to be an excuse for you to be late filling out your self assessment, therefore somebody has to be there to process the £100 statutory penalty demand.

 

[crazyg]

Christ this thing moves fast, apparently the fighter jets EU promised for Ukraine are already there or on the way!

I wonder if it will be like the film "Independence Day", when all the volunteers were able to fly the FA-18s with no training?

 

[west didsblue]

This whole conflict is showing up what a bunch of complete amateurs we currently have in charge of our country. Liz Truss is a fucking idiot.

It crossed my mind when Truss said what she said that the Russians would use it as an example of western provocation in some way. If I thought of it, a government minister most certainly should have.

 

[bluebaja]

Privately the talks will be directed at the Generals, the Oligarchs.Sowing the seeds of doubt that Putin is of sound mind and persuading them their assets will be returned if they act. Those hit biggest financially will certainly not be happy with what's going on. Hopefully we can convince Russia to deal with Russia without having to get our hands dirty

Yes that is my thought. Putin is acting like this is the Soviet Union from 50 years ago, lots of people have access to information and it must be common knowledge that his spoutings are bullshit. There are lots of people, presumably with a lot of influence, that have a lot to loose here. I also think the possibility of a military coup is not beyond possibility

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

This whole conflict is showing up what a bunch of complete amateurs we currently have in charge of our country. Liz Truss is a fucking idiot.

Liz Truss is a fool, but it’s not her fault Russia put itself on nuclear alert.

Putin’s cronies cooked up that stunt all by themselves.