Sergio's Offside, factually definitive or interpretive ?

[DTeacher]

We won last night

We won the war but we lost the battle ;(

 

[DTeacher]

There are no Cancel, Delete or restart buttons, we can only press finish or Next.

Yeah, that Champions League is difficult to comprehend. ;)

 

[Odd socks]

Go and watch rugby to see VAR used properly, ref asking for a specific check not men behind closed doors whispering in the refs ear.
Everyone sees it on screen and it becomes clear, we all know the rules.
Football to stubborn to follow the best practice available and turning into a bunch of muppets

 

[bluealf]

I’ve just watched again (further breaking me heart a tiny bit) and... you know... you may be right:



This just furthers my view that VAR can (And will) be manipulated to ensure certain outcomes. Maybe Sergio was actually offside, but because of how the broadcasters chose to review the incident (and the lack of transparency from VAR), we’ll never know for sure *how* they checked to confirm (that is, when did they freeze frame to assess).

It does look like the ball was on the right side of Bernie’s leg for the frame used by the broadcasters, rather than the left side which would be in line with accepted practice for offside calls (when the ball leaves the foot, not when it makes contact)... the latter might have put Sergio onside and the goal would have stood.

That has made me all angry again now, cheers :(

 

[hampshireblue]

The image you’re looking at is clearly not taken when the ball is played by Bernardo. The ball hadn’t even touched him, let alone bounced off him (rule - when the ball is played), so you’re talking complete and utter bollocks. The ball is the wrong side of his leg unless he played it back to Eriksen which he clearly didn’t.

At least twice on BT last night the offside was referred to as when Aguero received the ball NOT when it was played. Once I think by Jenas in the commentary and also by the so called expert Peter Walton. He said it so decisively I even thought I'd missed a rule change. I do hope that City will be asking for the evidence with the lines to show that he was offside and making that public-or are the pics being doctored at this very moment? lol.

 

[SebastianBlue]

That has made me all angry again now, cheers :(

Sorry, Alf. :-/

 

[lasereyes]

I have a feeling we will get stitched up in the league

Maybe you're just glass half empty and I am glass half full. Did you feel the same in 2014?

 

[Saddleworth2]

Just in case anyone wanted to be more frustrated this morning, compare and contrast VAR’s decision last night with VAR’s decision in the away leg.





(Also: notice where the ball is in the freeze frame for their goal, and where it is for our goal; hint — Sergio was running *back* from an offside position.)

still looks slightly offside to me mate.

 

[lasereyes]

I think we all know the answer to that question (see last season for more information).

That's a silly comparison as there was no VAR last year so obviously the goal would have stood. I have seen no evidence that we were shafted on that goal - it looked offside on every shot. The Llorente one is a clear example of VAR being badly applied. If the ref had seen the right shot, I have no doubt he would have chalked off the goal. Overall, he didn't do a bad job yesterday.

 

[SebastianBlue]

still looks slightly offside to me mate.

Could apply to both.