Shamima Begum

[Ban-jani]

its called religion .... not yours obviously .... but Christianity has been guilty of worse .... mote in the eye and all that

People have done awful things in the name of Christianity but I’m interested to hear what you think is worse than ISIS?

 

[The blue phantom]

To be clear I do not have an ounce of religion in me its a cop out, however probably unlike you, I have been to and seen at first hand the monstrosity that is the Middle East.

Yes I remember you on the Sergeant Blackman thread when he murdered that unarmed Taliban fighter. You went all in on his defence so I guess you arnt going to let what was a 15 year old groomed and radicalised girl come back to her place of birth are you?

 

[mancityvstoke]

People have done awful things in the name of Christianity but I’m interested to hear what you think is worse than ISIS?

Leeds and Millwall obviously

 

[Ban-jani]

Leeds and Millwall obviously

Neither one of those are as bad as Liverpool.

 

[hilts]

My guess is that neither he, nor anyone else, would.

Then you would be completely wrong

 

[Ban-jani]

Yes I remember you on the Sergeant Blackman thread when he murdered that unarmed Taliban fighter. You went all in on his defence so I guess you arnt going to let what was a 15 year old groomed and radicalised girl come back to her place of birth are you?

What was indeed.

She was still there, in the midst of countless atrocities, supporting it, at 18.

Furthermore she still showed no remorse nor regret at 19.

Using the age of 15 is irrelevant now. If I start doing something illegal or join an illegal group at 15 and I’m still there years later, as an adult, supporting it, I’m guilty.

 

[Bobo Fett]

People generally accept that teenagers can be groomed sexually by older people.

But in this case they don't accept a teenager can be groomed or manipulated

 

[hilts]

its called religion .... not yours obviously .... but Christianity has been guilty of worse .... mote in the eye and all that

 

[journolud]

What was indeed.

She was still there, in the midst of countless atrocities, supporting it, at 18.

Furthermore she still showed no remorse nor regret at 19.

Using the age of 15 is irrelevant now. If I start doing something illegal or join an illegal group at 15 and I’m still there years later, as an adult, supporting it, I’m guilty.

People generally accept that teenagers can be groomed sexually by older people.

But in this case they don't accept a teenager can be groomed or manipulated

Some examples of how "adults" make unwise choices

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213481900508

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/women-leave/

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/stockholm-syndrome

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2019/08/15/female-radicalisation-why-do-women-join-isis/

Still, there is always a choice...

 

[Ban-jani]

Some examples of how "adults" make unwise choices

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213481900508

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/women-leave/

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/stockholm-syndrome

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2019/08/15/female-radicalisation-why-do-women-join-isis/

Still, there is always a choice...

Are you refusing to read or acknowledge any of the arguments my side of the debate is putting across?

Had she been there at 15, later changed her mind, tried to flee or you know, shown remorse in her interview with Sky News at 19, then I would be totally for punishment but rehabilitation for her.

But the facts are, as I’ve repeated, she doesn’t regret it, blatantly still supports the caliphate, only being sad about her despicable husband dying and her children unfortunately dying too and she was in the midst of atrocities, assisting with making suicide vests and seeing executions, at 18.

This is someone groomed, a child, who unfortunately got convinced to go out to join this abomination of evil, yet she’s continued with it into her adult life.

The sight of dead Christians, homosexuals, anyone really who was innocent, didn’t change her mind. She was regretful about them losing Raqqa.

Comparing her to child prostitutes and victims of rape in Rotherham is a total disgrace and further highlights the immoral gutter in which the Bluemoon leftists now swim.