Spurs (H) - Post-Match Thread

The difference yesterday was what happened when the two teams were on the ball. We passed and took three fuckin' touches, passed it back to the person who passed it to him, and then onto the wing where two or three defenders queued up to negate the move, whereas Spurs took one touch and pass and the speed of play was too good for us. We used to play like that and carve people open, and then they got wise! And Pep is still at the drawing board.
Yes, this is infuriating. We don't often break with pace anymore, the ball is always passed back giving the opposition time to regroup and build that defensive wall. We often take two or three touches when one will suffice. Just watched the EDS do similar, except on the second goal, first time strike and goal.
 
City's high line seems tailor made for Spurs and Kane, in particular, playing very much the role Pep hoped he would be playing for us. Dias, Laporte and Rodri had as uncomfortable days as anyone can remember and were chasing shadows as Spurs ran from midfield. A very disappointing day.

It is, however, as well to remember that, just as no trophy was handed out over Christmas as Liverpool and especially Chelsea stumbled, nothing was decided yesterday. Those who seem to believe that the title race shifted decisively in Liverpool's favour might be advised to remember that there is still 1/3 of the PL season left before the title goes to the team which has take most points from 38 games, not 25. Teams may be able to compete over 90 mins, even give City a drubbing, but competing with us, and getting the better of us, over 38 games has been very difficult in Pep's time here. And it must be remembered that Liverpool are in second place because they have not proved as effective as City at amassing points.

City lost yesterday because they failed to deal with Spurs' counter attacks. No team seems to have the ability of an on-form Kane and Son and dealing with the counter is not a new problem for City and Pep. He has paid more attention to it than to any other problem and I suspect things will be tweaked to deal with it.
 
Last edited:
Spurs have played this way the last few times we've played them and most of the time recently they've walked away with the points. Pep may be a genius a lot of the time but there are others where he never seems to learn. Playing the ridiculously high line we did was asking for trouble and Spurs look like they could score anytime. We had all the ball but a combination of walking about with it, misplaced passes and at times lack of movement we never really looked like winning. Annoying as while the title is still in our hands it is now also in Liverpools. Looking at our set up yesterday they will be rubbing their hands about the visit to Etihad.
 
It was a plan he said they worked on and that they knew of the danger Spurs posed. Do you really think Pep, the coaching team and the players didn't talk about it and plan to deal with it? Come on you're old enough to know they would have. As I said in my earlier post, knowing about a threat and stopping it are two different things. Every team would get a result against us if it was that simple.

Spurs played their best game of the season yesterday and a lot of our players were poor. Even so with a bit more luck we could also have won. A draw was a fair result and we had that until idiotic play and mistakes by some of our out of form players criminally cost us. Shit happens that's the first time we've lost since October.
I'm not saying that they wouldn't have been aware, say last Thursday, of the threat that Spurs posed, but anyone looking at the pattern of play, and the 'ease' with which Spurs were able to repeat their one and only attacking option smacks of an A6 piece of paper, PLAN, squarely written at the top, which was then shoved into a back pocket and forgotten!
 
Really bad day at the office, terrible defensively throughout the whole team. It happens, but to get the equaliser and then let them in for the winner is criminal and could cost us dearly, hopefully it won't.
A team that came here to defend have scored three goals and could/should have had more, and that tells the tale of how bad we were.
 
I don’t get paid to play football but I certainly pay to watch it. I cannot agree with Peps assessment of the game at all. All three goals were defensive shite imo
The mortal sin lies not in allowing one defensive error to let the game slip away, but THREE, nay, FOUR, and then to gift the third goal-scoring chance after scraping yer way back with barely seconds to go. Yer can just imagine Dippers watching that game when we got our pen, and then . . . . . . !
 
Having summoned up courage to watch the highlights on the City site, what was obvious is that Kane will never score two easier goals, he was given a free run for his first goal and he hardly had to jump for what turned out to be the winner. Both our full backs were poor, as were our centre backs. The line up v Sporting looks like our strongest, left back remains a conundrum. As for no recognised centre forward, it’s fucking us up. We haven’t come close to replacing Sergio.
Just done the same and at last watched it back. Have to get Stones back in I agree for his passing too. Whole back 4 were poor but Walker looked really all at sea, not in picture for first, and third easily beaten, weak tackling efforts on some others. Think we also need to get a bit more out of Foden for a player of his ability he seems a bit stiffled by the system. .
 
Really bad day at the office, terrible defensively throughout the whole team. It happens, but to get the equaliser and then let them in for the winner is criminal and could cost us dearly, hopefully it won't.
A team that came here to defend have scored three goals and could/should have had more, and that tells the tale of how bad we were.
Same in the Palace game. Two games against teams that stake their ninety minutes on stopping us scoring and gleefully take away 6 points after scoring five goals between them. I hoped that the fiasco of the Palace game, admittedly where we were down to ten, would have written another defining chapter in Pep's coaching manual, But a few games later, and at home, we offer up a worse repeat! The programme yesterday should have read City V Palace (Rpt)!
 
Same in the Palace game. Two games against teams that stake their ninety minutes on stopping us scoring and gleefully take away 6 points after scoring five goals between them. I hoped that the fiasco of the Palace game, admittedly where we were down to ten, would have written another defining chapter in Pep's coaching manual, But a few games later, and at home, we offer up a worse repeat! The programme yesterday should have read City V Palace (Rpt)!
Yeah, we were saying at the game yesterday, that it felt like past games against Leicester all over again in that every time we got turned over we looked ridiculously vulnerable.
 
Sometimes I just think why don’t we just put 10 men behind the ball ourselves and see who blinks first, we could learn from Chelsea how to beat these cunts.
The essence of that approach, and I've seen it innumerable times at the Etihad, and the same over the road watching the women, and it would be anathema to Pep's basic principles, but we have seen that the title is won, not with swashbuckling attacking football, but with the simple accumulation of points. Nice to watch if your accumulation is underpinned with swashbuckling footy, but yesterday, with a point in the bag, we set off for the win where everybody, bar Eddie, wants to score the fuckin' winner.
 
Spurs defended like their lives depended on it and had the quality up front to punish our bollocks. Kane and Son would walk into our team they are that good.
They look world beaters agains the shambolic resistance we offered up yesterday, but switch 'Arry and Son for Foden 'n Sterling, and I think the Spurs defence would have rendered them as toothless as our fellahs.
 
Every once in a while, shit happens. I remember an early 2019 game versus Norwich in which we were just awful and Norwich looked like world beaters - we finished 2nd that season and Norwich went down.

At the same time - our defense as of late seems to be giving up a lot of chances. Mostly the opposition hasn't executed and these chances have come to nought. We've been somewhat riding our luck IMO.
 
IMO this is a problem with the CB partnership. Laporte is slow and easily turned, we’ve seen that for a couple of years now, and the more Dias plays with him the more he seems to be trying to nip things in the bud like Otamendi used to.

Stones is much faster and more comfortable covering back and mopping up if that ball in behind is played, which is why he and Dias fit so well together as a pair.
I luv Dias and think he will be our captain for years, but he's not playing at the same level he was last season.

The reasons can be debated, he needs a rest as he's played too much football? prefers to play on the left side? doesn't suit playing with Laporte?
But he was bought as a right sided CH and at the time the consensus was that he was brought in to play alongside Laporte.

I know Laporte is everybody's scapegoat on here, but he has been part of the meanest defence in the league this season and anyone who thinks it was his fault yesterday needs to watch the game again. He was the least of the problems.
 
I also continue to believe Dias is being made to look completely ordinary by playing on the right of the pairing because Laporte is starting ahead of Stones.

It makes so much difference on having build up out on both sides.

I regularly get hammered for it, but De Bruyne is more of a liability when we are parked on the edge of the opponents' 18 yard box.

Would like to see Gundo get a run in the false nine.

Laportes a liability i’d rather have Ake in there at the minute

get Dias on the left and Stones in at RCB
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top