Steve Ireland

The more I see of Ireland the more I think it could well be burn out. Over the last 2 years Ireland has worked his balls off to get to a certain level. Last season we benefited from his work during the summer. Same routine last summer for this season has lead to a number of injuries and his body kind of packing up. Last season he could recover from injuries much quicker compared to this season. He needs to take some time off from his pre season training and just do the clubs pre season training a rest can at times be better than training for his body.
I expect Ireland to be up for the battle for places next season and he will up the level of his play to get back into the team. It is a shame that Ireland has gone from 1 way to the other because on form from midfield he gets a couple of goals. We need a strong squad next season with some sort of European football on the cards we need a big squad who when called into the team can preform to a high standard. Getting rid would be mad at this moment of time.
 
OOHBEBLUE said:
Is nobody going to mention SWP's non marking of Evra on the wing which set the goal up?!
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Yes, but it wasn't Evra who scored the goal. If Ireland would have stayed with Scholes, he would have never got a free header and scored. What makes it worse is his actions afterwards. Flapping his arms and trying to put the blame on other players.
 
jrb said:
OOHBEBLUE said:
Is nobody going to mention SWP's non marking of Evra on the wing which set the goal up?!
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Yes, but it wasn't Evra who scored the goal. If Ireland would have stayed with Scholes, he would have never got a free header and scored. What makes it worse is his actions afterwards. Flapping his arms and trying to put the blame on other players.
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As someone who normally would defend Ireland,I do find it hard to defend that.
 
jrb said:
What makes it worse is his actions afterwards. Flapping his arms and trying to put the blame on other players.
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He was just doing his Micah impersonation from the swamp derby. Both players have inflated egos to contend with!
 
The video. It's makes me sick watching those Rags celebrate, but the video clearly shows the lead up to the goal and Irelands reaction afterwards.

Watch Scholes initially run past Ireland from behind and then run into the box. Not sure if Ireland saw him or not(looked like he did), he then try's to catch him up, but it's too late.

Even the commentators single out Ireland(Spanish?) at the end. Probably saying why the f*** did he let Scholes go and allow him a free header.

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If you look at that clip and pause it at 15 seconds when Scholes is making his run we have the back 4 in place with Barry sitting in front of them. Meaning that Barry knows that Scholes is making the run. Ireland also knows that the back 4 and Barry is there so is not as big of a concern to get back. Move it along a bit Barry then went to the danger with Toure closing down the cross he took Toures man. Meaning now that Scholes is now the danger and could not get back. In a ideal world Kompany would of moved onto Scholes and Bridge would of covered Kompanys man. You can pick faults in a lot of our play for that goal.
 
Why do our home grown boys seem to implode after a good season?

I once heard someone say johnno is the closest thing to bell we ever have had, then johnno gets his 'stomach injury' and now looks like he has been doing some extra 'training' with ricky hatton down the local greasy spoon. Micah was attracting interest from chelsea, rags and apparentley a few big european clubs, where's his form gone? I've not seen as much of young vlad as i'd like to, according to some who have, he's a great prospect so hopefully he might be an exception. Does anyone think that after coming through the youth set up and becoming a VERY rich young man, that the 'edge' gets lost somewhere in translation? (sadly the one youngster who is fulfilling potential Hart, can't oust shay)
 
His car was still at the ground at around 6PM last night as I walked passed, only his car aswel.
 
I think Stephens Dizzy moment was a similar thing to what happened to Peter Barnes at the award ceremony and i think just like Barnes..Ireland will not return to the player he was earlier.
 
Biggest. Overreaction. Ever.

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I really don't want to get involved but a few people on here really lack intelligence. Ireland's one of the most technically gifted footballers in our team. He's quality. I really don't want a debate, but to slag him off and single him out for that one goal the way you have is nothing short of disgraceful. Our club would be better off without you.
 
bluefandk said:
jrb said:
Yes, but it wasn't Evra who scored the goal. If Ireland would have stayed with Scholes, he would have never got a free header and scored. What makes it worse is his actions afterwards. Flapping his arms and trying to put the blame on other players.
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As someone who normally would defend Ireland,I do find it hard to defend that.
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He was at fault for not tracking Scholes or at least, as the nearest man, picking him up in the box. Same can be said for Ned going AWOL leaving Evra with a criminal amount of space to deliver the cross. I'm a fan of both players but they are culpable.
 
Agree with this, the fact he didnt run around/ try is worrying. I feel ashamed to have constantly sung his name when he warmed up and gave back a wry smug smile.
 
Fat Chance said:
I think Stephens Dizzy moment was a similar thing to what happened to Peter Barnes at the award ceremony and i think just like Barnes..Ireland will not return to the player he was earlier.
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Wrong all counts

The incidents are not comparable: Stephen was feeling ill; Peter wasn't; Stephen went to hospital;Peter didn't. Stephen's form seems to have suffered and he is not the player he was, whether the two are related nobody knows, or are saying. The awards incident was purely down to nerves and can happen to even the most accomplished public speaker and it didn't not have any affect on Peter's career
 
I do think Stephen Ireland is a quality player , and it's hard to comprehend the change in him ..... whether it's because he's being overlooked , or whether it's because he's after leaving , i'm not sure ..... but he certainly doesn't look the player he was.

Having said that if the rags had lost possession in the same place that City did in that final minute , would they have conceded a late goal?

I think not .......

first because they would have reacted to to it far more positively than we did , they would have been more alert , more professional ....... and you can bet your bottom dollar that one of their central defenders wouldn't have left a player free , directly in front of goal , to score with only 17 seconds left on the clock ....... Ireland could maybe have done more to prevent it , but probably so could one or two others!
 
He's playing in the wrong team. Maybe hes just frustrated watching City because even I don't see the attraction of playing 3 defensive minded centre-midfielders in the same team anyway.

Ireland is a confidence player, once he gets a few games behind him and gets a goal he'll be shit hot. But hes not been given enough time due to impatience.

I wouldn't want to get rid of Ireland and then in 6 months time, having City fans regretting it like we did with Elano.
 
jimharri said:
bluefandk said:
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As someone who normally would defend Ireland,I do find it hard to defend that.
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He was at fault for not tracking Scholes or at least, as the nearest man, picking him up in the box. Same can be said for Ned going AWOL leaving Evra with a criminal amount of space to deliver the cross. I'm a fan of both players but they are culpable.
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Yep Neddy was really the one at fault and I think it was Kolo that got pulled out of position to try and cut out the cross and then the defence was outstretched and outnumbered in the middle although Bridgey could have got to Scholes.

On the other hand Bellamy should not have given away the ball so cheaply to initiate their move when the game was basically over and their heads had dropped.

A lack of collective discipline is the ultimate culprit once again imo.
 
PSmyth07 said:
He's playing in the wrong team. Maybe hes just frustrated watching City because even I don't see the attraction of playing 3 defensive minded centre-midfielders in the same team anyway.

Ireland is a confidence player, once he gets a few games behind him and gets a goal he'll be shit hot. But hes not been given enough time due to impatience.

I wouldn't want to get rid of Ireland and then in 6 months time, having City fans regretting it like we did with Elano.
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Not sure fans particularly regret selling Elano?!

I understand If he's frustrated, but it's lack of effort which means he's got no hope with us now and has to leave, he's not up to the challenges ahead.
 
happens every time this bald headed wanker plays. When will every tosser learn Ireland Richards and SWP are shite, might have been ok when all we ever played for was staying in the Prem League, and maybe scraping a derby victory every now and then.

Can't wait for the summer to see the back of these 3 tossers
 
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