And manifesto are largely never considered by the electorate. The case in point being the 2019 Tory manifesto. The election for many was about one issue for many voters. The additional policies being justified most recently by the buffoon as an overwhelming mandate.Referenda are ok if it's written in that any change is backed by a substantial majority - 70 or 75%. Westminster FC have had their arses well and truly bitten by the last one, and both Boris and Liz were quick to fuck off Wee Jimmy for another Scottish one. If it's just a simple majority - 50.1% - it can bring a right balls up down the driveway.
They literally make a huge profit that goes into the exchequer every year.Time to bin the lot of them, a drain on the country with all the hangers on and multiple country houses, an utterly pointless family
Sorry you lost me thereNo it's fact one of Kates mates, and anyway by just mentioning the affairs it implies, for you affairs are a no no, but having a royal mistress to shove dildos up is arse are fine?
Sorry I'm posting this here as having a separate thread to debate the need for a monarchy assuming this isn't pulled too. BM shouldn't be an echo chamber and we should at least tolerate differences of opinion.
This is entirely the right time to start a genuine debate on the monarchy.
QEII was a great head of state and a touchstone for the entirety of my life. She represented UK well and was held in I think universal high regard. We'll literally never have anyone like her.
I really don't want a President Blair or Johnson god forbid. But equally look at the size of the royal family. The Queen, Charles, Anne and William do fulfill many engagements, do charity work. What about all the others? Also it incenses me that they wish to add Mountbatten to their name, will's youngest is named after him. Read what Mountbatten did during Partition he was and always will be a cowardly dishonest piece of shit with plenty of blood on his hands. My grandfathers fought in Burma for the empire. They didn't have their own country to go back to and legacy of Mountbatten is poisonous to this day.
Sorry for the rant but some things can't be forgotten. What about the utter corruption of the honours system? Saville, Smith, Johnson and the cronies he's created, not great adverts. At work we can nominate people for honours, surprisingly it's the good and great at the top of the organisation who get peerages.
It's wrong, the monarchy should be scaled back with the intention of being eventually abolished. Do we need a ceremonial head of state or a properly elected democratic leader, through proportional representation.
In response, I would say that it is easy to believe what you are told all of your life. I agree with you: to many she is an important figure and they will be sad today. If I look at the output of the BBC and the Daily Mail, it is heavily swayed towards the saintly and, to be frank, always has been when it comes to Elizabeth II. If you have grown up in a royalist family, you will veer towards the reported view and not question it.Where as i largely agree with most of that, you only have to look at the thousands that will line the streets for her to see her drive past. Thousands smiling broadly, waving flags, buzzing because they saw the queen. Now although i would say im a mild royalist (happy with the concept though needs reform and slimming down) i wouldnt travel too far to see her, but thousands do and it makes their day!
So whatever it is, and ive no idea, she brought total happiness to millions of people when they saw her. If you could bottle it youd make billions
If you judge someone by saintly standards, probably. The divorces are but one element of what I did say though.Is getting a divorce a poor reflection on a mother? Oops say a sizeable portion of sons and daughters.
I was like, I never types that yesterday, that is some random quotation from an older post lolThe monarch is required by law (Bill of Rights) to be ethnically German, i.e. a decendant of the Elector of Hanover.
Yeah, but a 50.1% majority can show, on occasion, that a democratic process can be a shitty one!What an odd concept of democracy, 1 in 4 don't agree so we go with them.
I like you Bill, but I am glad that your views are the other side of the world as I fundamentally disagree with you.Just to add......If this Royalty thing is carried on with and if Charlie care's as much as his Mother did about the role of Royalty, he would hand succession now to William and miss his go, the guy's is a weak fuckwit who cheated on his wife from day 1, and his wife has the morals of an alleycat.
But he doesn't care imo, he want's his name in history.
Why?The passing of the Queen should be the end of the royal family.
I take it that given the media coverage you are a Utd fan as the media like them.In response, I would say that it is easy to believe what you are told all of your life. I agree with you: to many she is an important figure and they will be sad today. If I look at the output of the BBC and the Daily Mail, it is heavily swayed towards the saintly and, to be frank, always has been when it comes to Elizabeth II. If you have grown up in a royalist family, you will veer towards the reported view and not question it.
They were spouting their crap, crazyadi, whilst she was alive 'n kicking, or should that be riding. I think she ne'er kicked a football!Thought there would be the usual republicans spouting their crap the instant she died!
Why?
No because my family were City fans and I was born in Moss Side.I take it that given the media coverage you are a Utd fan as the media like them.
Alternatively, people have their own viewpoint and aren't so simple as to believe what is written in the tabloids.
Spot on mate.According to Forbes, the House of Windsor is estimated to contribute £19 billion ($28 billion) to Britain's economy pre-pandemic.
Also the Royal Contribution to UK finances goes far beyond tourism. The fact is that multi-billion pound deals are done every year on the back of royal visits around the world.
I'm a royalist but I understand they are not perfect but what do we replace them with a President? No thank you is what I say to that.
The Queen is dead long live the King.
It's too complicated for me right now :-) I am pro monarchy and I, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that you are not. Obviously I am not really suggesting that you are a Utd fan, that would be a step too far.No because my family were City fans and I was born in Moss Side.
Have a look again at my post - I didn't only mention the influence of media.
I am not pro-monarchy, you were correct. I respect those that are genuinely affected by the loss of The Queen but I do not support those that are jumping on the grief bandwagon, including some of my friends and family, changing their social media posts and profiles because they have suddenly discovered a royalist passion that they have hid from me for all our time together.It's too complicated for me right now :-) I am pro monarchy and I, perhaps incorrectly, assumed that you are not. Obviously I am not really suggesting that you are a Utd fan, that would be a step too far.
I respect your views.I am not pro-monarchy, you were correct. I respect those that are genuinely affected by the loss of The Queen but I do not support those that are jumping on the grief bandwagon, including some of my friends and family, changing their social media posts and profiles because they have suddenly discovered a royalist passion that they have hid from me for all our time together.
I have not studied republican nations across the globe enough to know whether it would be a positive move, or not.