The Harry and Meghan fuss

[Mraitch]

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You’re asking for nuance from one person in a conversation while the other is calling him a “stupid fat ****” and a “thicko”.

The quotes you mention came after I had sent my post and are absolutely unnecessary.

I was wondering why he, and you come to that, are wholly supportive of H&M and accept no criticism of them. There are clearly some issues around their honesty, which then cast doubt about the validity of some of their other, unvalidated claims.

I accept that they struggled to fit in with the rigid structures of royal life and press intrusion so needed to leave. It was the right thing for them to do. Telling their story to push back against the press is fine by me. I am uncomfortable with them slinging mud at Harry’s family. It seems unnecessary to me and won’t improve things for them or change the past. It seems to lack emotional intelligence to me. They talk of kindness and compassion but show little to their respective families.

 

[N1985]

Think I may need to add a few extra miles on my runs to lose the ‘fat ****’ tag


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A young Prince Harry with his real Dad.

Seriously though. Great photo!

 

[mackenzie]

Be a bit more respectful to mackenzie, Dom. She’s one of the good ones even if you vehemently disagree with her.

It's fine, but thank you anyway.
It's a divisive subject as we have seen, and people have their own opinions.
I'll bow out as I don't have the patience or the time to really bother
Thanks for the post though.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Good on 'em. I don't find either of them likeable, but if their quest for more money helps bring an end to the Monarchy I'll buy their New Year fitness DVD

 

[mackenzie]

And how do you know that?

Because you read it in a tabloid that Thomas Markle sold a story to?

@Phil1 I know you want me to respect this person but it’s impossible to respect anyone who regurgitates tabloid shite and then defends it being wrong because it’s “heartfelt”.

There’s nothing heartfelt about being angry that someone’s spoken about their mental health issues in public.

You have no idea how I come to post what I post. You have no idea about my own dealings with mental health issues within my family.
You really need to stop spouting and take a breath.

 

[mexico1970]

Good on 'em. I don't find either of them likeable but if their quest for more money helps bring an end to the Monarchy I'll buy their New Year fitness DVD

Honesty is something that can be respected, makes a change from buying their books and claiming to love them more than your family.

 

[N1985]

Friday night on a football forum. Grown men (and Mackenzie) argue over a reality Netflix documentary about Harry Hewitt and the fit one from Suits vs a family that are nothing more than racist, bigoted German dinosaurs.

World is fucked. I'm out

 

[domalino]

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The quotes you mention came after I had sent my post and are absolutely unnecessary.

I was wondering why he, and you come to that, are wholly supportive of H&M and accept no criticism of them. There are clearly some issues around their honesty, which then cast doubt about the validity of some of their other, unvalidated claims.

I accept that they struggled to fit in with the rigid structures of royal life and press intrusion so needed to leave. It was the right thing for them to do. Telling their story to push back against the press is fine by me. I am uncomfortable with them slinging mud at Harry’s family. It seems unnecessary to me and won’t improve things for them or change the past. It seems to lack emotional intelligence to me. They talk of kindness and compassion but show little to their respective families.

It's not that I won't hear criticism of them, it's just the criticisms offered up are such contrived shite that fall upon the faintest inspection.

So many of them rely entirely on lies or misrepresentation and pretend stupidity. Pretending to not know the difference between privacy and speaking publicly, lying about her mocking the dead queen in a documentary filmed before the queen was even ill. Getting angry about the personal wealth of someone offering up advice and sharing experiences of being suicidal.

You say they should push back against the press, but some of those press stories were planted by the Palace, many of them involved his relationship with his brother, so pushing back against them is going to entail what you call "mud slinging" but in actual fact seems to be incredibly tame.

You also seem to have not considered the idea they have self-censored a lot of stuff about his family and that there's probably a lot more that will never see the light of day because it's simply between them?

 

[domalino]

You have no idea how I come to post what I post. You have no idea about my own dealings with mental health issues within my family.
You really need to stop spouting and take a breath.

I don't need to know anything about you or your dealings with mental health, I'm replying to your comments.

You are the one who complained in a comment that they're spreading mental health awareness through a 200m subscriber platform instead of in small private talks and said they should have kept it all in the family.

If you don't want people to respond to that, you shouldn't have posted it.

If you want people to think you're not dismissive of mental health issues, perhaps don't write shite like "Mental health and racist boxes ticked."

Or don't accuse someone of lying about their mental health issues being ignored because 5+ years ago they mentioned getting support over something completely different.


Dodged the question about Thomas Markle though.

 

[mackenzie]

I don't need to know anything about you or your dealings with mental health, I'm replying to your comments.

You are the one who has complained they're spreading mental health awareness through a 200m subscriber platform instead of in small private talks.

Wouldn't it be lovely if issues could be kept private amongst families.
But I guess that Pandora's Box has been fully opened now and those days are long gone.

I just think they are a couple of opportunists. But I'm sure you know best.
You know what the irony is? Much of Harry and Meghan's "story" is undoubtedly "heartfelt" yet you seem to mock it in reference to mine.

 

[wolviedinho]

Awww FFS everyone likes Megan don't they?

I wouldn’t say no. Very nice looking lady -:)

Lucky ginger twat. Not only did he fuck off the royals after cleaning them out but he bagged himself a beauty. It’s Megan I feel sorry for, ginger bush must be her thing!

Sorry to interrupt this lively debate. Oh and they are both spoiled wankers and the media are also wankers.

 

[domalino]

Wouldn't it be lovely if issues could be kept private amongst families.
But I guess that Pandora's Box has been fully opened now and those days are long gone.

I just think they are a couple of opportunists. But I'm sure you know best.

No not really. Keeping things like being suicidal private among families is how we ended up with incredibly high rates of suicide in the 50s and 60's and opening up and talking about the problems and the normalisation of getting help with depression is how we've managed to reduce that by about half.

Or is the implication that Harry and Meghan have made their lives public, and not the millions of tabloid articles written about them?

 

[BlueHammer85]

A young Prince Harry with his real Dad.

Seriously though. Great photo!

Interestingly it’s been removed but the posts calling me a ‘fat prick/****’ are still there which is nice

 

[N1985]

Interestingly it’s been removed but the posts calling me a ‘fat prick/****’ are still there which is nice

This place really is the pits these days, whether that is a reflection on society as a whole, I don't know. Probably the last time I visit for a while. Fuck em pal, probably some sad little dickhead with no friends, no life. Certainly not out there running 10ks and doing his best. Like I said, fuck em

 

[BlueHammer85]

This place really is the pits these days, whether that is a reflection on society as a whole, I don't know. Probably the last time I visit for a while. Fuck em pal, probably some sad little dickhead with no friends, no life. Certainly not out there running 10ks and doing his best. Like I said, fuck em

Cheers pal, still a great forum regardless of the odd trolls

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

Agree.
I've always liked Harry, he's like his mother. He's the only one I'd like to go for a pint with.

Meghan seems like a good laugh and down to Earth as well.
Can't fathom all the hate for her.

And this is why Meghan is royalty for most of us!



Royally bashing Piers and other snowflakes without even a word out of her mouth!

You go girl!

 

[oldius]

For years, the Daily Mail, and others, have clearly conducted a relentless campaign against Meghan. They only do it for clicks, so the real question is why is it so easy to gain clicks for such articles from their readers?

15 Headlines Show How Differently The British Press Treat Meghan Markle Vs Kate Middleton

Here are some of the things that British journalists only seemed to think were wrong once Meghan did them.

www.boredpanda.com

I'm afraid I support the idea that this is about race. From rubber boats to rubber bullets at Meghan, the paper knows its audience, and they are white, Conservative traditionalists who don't want 'her type' near the monarchy. Any story against Meghan, endlessly quoting palace sources, gets those clicks and the comments sections are toxic. If I were her husband, I would have said 'enough is enough'.

 

[Mraitch]

It's not that I won't hear criticism of them, it's just the criticisms offered up are such contrived shite that fall upon the faintest inspection.

So many of them rely entirely on lies or misrepresentation and pretend stupidity. Pretending to not know the difference between privacy and speaking publicly, lying about her mocking the dead queen in a documentary filmed before the queen was even ill. Getting angry about the personal wealth of someone offering up advice and sharing experiences of being suicidal.

You say they should push back against the press, but some of those press stories were planted by the Palace, many of them involved his relationship with his brother, so pushing back against them is going to entail what you call "mud slinging" but in actual fact seems to be incredibly tame.

You also seem to have not considered the idea they have self-censored a lot of stuff about his family and that there's probably a lot more that will never see the light of day because it's simply between them?

But where is the evidence that Meghan was suicidal or that the stories were planted by the palace. Neither you nor I, or indeed anybody on here, know any of the actual truth. They may have self censored but they seemed to have also lied. Why is that?

 

[2sheikhs]

For years, the Daily Mail, and others, have clearly conducted a relentless campaign against Meghan. They only do it for clicks, so the real question is why is it so easy to gain clicks for such articles from their readers?

15 Headlines Show How Differently The British Press Treat Meghan Markle Vs Kate Middleton

Here are some of the things that British journalists only seemed to think were wrong once Meghan did them.

www.boredpanda.com

I'm afraid I support the idea that this is about race. From rubber boats to rubber bullets at Meghan, the paper knows its audience, and they are white, Conservative traditionalists who don't want 'her type' near the monarchy. Any story against Meghan, endlessly quoting palace sources, gets those clicks and the comments sections are toxic. If I were her husband, I would have said 'enough is enough'.

So that's that then. Offer up any critique of Meghan and we'll all know why.

 

[oldius]

So that's that then. Offer up any critique of Meghan and we'll all know why.

If you can explain why one royal gets the headlines she does, for identical behaviour to another, then please do; this goes back years. In fact, Harry complained, back in 2016, about the media's conduct but it has continued. When I mention the race issue, it is about the ease with which the media has managed to turn public opinion, and why the comments made to those articles are, generally speaking, utter bile: what is it that she has done that is so bad?