Does Reeves not just hate old people? She’s gonna take their money when they die and she’ll try and help a few along the way by freezing them to death.
The clues are there.
Your last para trumpets the Tory shout about faster growth than the rest of Europe. You fall for the smoke and mirrors that was the Tories strategy. It's easier to grow faster from rock bottom than it is from a position higher up the economic pyramid. As to the rest of your detailed list I am sure the Tories got somethings right but no one can argue that their 14 years was a glorious success.But you assume a basic premise "The previous guy was inept below the level of incompetent for 14 years".
Serious question, do you think the what is it, £300bn we spent on the furlow scheme was necessary? That the cross-party support for it was correct? And do you think that the country shutting down for 1 to 2 years and the additional £300bn of debt might possibly have had an impact upon our current economic situation?
Do you think the worldwide increases in inflation rates, and the gross mishandling of that by the incompetent, independent, Bank of England, has had any bearing on the UK economy and the average person's disposable income?
How about the 10x increase in wholesale gas prices. Any effect on household energy bills, do you think?
I get that people were bored of 14 years of Tory governments and I get that they made some mistakes, some howlers. But so does every government. Labour have made several in their first 50 days. I cannot hardly wait for the next blunder.
It is absolute nonsense to blame the Tories entirely for the state of our economy, which incidentally is growing quite nicely and faster than the G7 right now.
We all knew there was no money and that if labour was going to make things better/spend money they would have to find it somewhere. In the absence of substantial economic growth then that somewhere will have to be taxation.Does Reeves not just hate old people? She’s gonna take their money when they die and she’ll try and help a few along the way by freezing them to death.
The clues are there.
I believed Labour would sort the mess out, the Tories left a 22 billion black hole and I thought the first to suffer the pinch would be those at the top of the food chain. I’m prepared to accept the WFP but today we are told the water board wants to put up rates by 50% between now and 2030. So add to that Gas and Electric rises, many old people face a tough timeDoes Reeves not just hate old people? She’s gonna take their money when they die and she’ll try and help a few along the way by freezing them to death.
The clues are there.
My in-laws are pretty well off. Both retired in their early 50s, because they had generous pensions. They don't need the winter fuel allowance. They've even tried to have their's cancelled, out of guilt, in the past. In fact there's an awful lot of well-off baby boomers who don't need that money, and a lot of younger people, who are far worse off, who do need it. The same younger people who probably aren't going to be able to retire until their 70. It's right that the fuel payment is means tested. The important thing is making sure that older people, who need the benefit, are able and encouraged to apply for it.Does Reeves not just hate old people? She’s gonna take their money when they die and she’ll try and help a few along the way by freezing them to death.
The clues are there.
Well done, you got likes from the whole Tory squad.Does Reeves not just hate old people? She’s gonna take their money when they die and she’ll try and help a few along the way by freezing them to death.
The clues are there.
Wouldn't take much!Cloud half empty kinda guy?
This lot have shown already that they have more about them than the last lot.
My in-laws are pretty well off. Both retired in their early 50s, because they had generous pensions. They don't need the winter fuel allowance. They've even tried to have their's cancelled, out of guilt, in the past. In fact there's an awful lot of well-off baby boomers who don't need that money, and a lot of younger people, who are far worse off, who do need it. The same younger people who probably aren't going to be able to retire until their 70. It's right that the fuel payment is means tested. The important thing is making sure that older people, who need the benefit, are able and encouraged to apply for it.
Do you really believe the 22 billion bollocks? They new full well what the economy was like when they lied in their manifestoI believed Labour would sort the mess out, the Tories left a 22 billion black hole and I thought the first to suffer the pinch would be those at the top of the food chain. I’m prepared to accept the WFP but today we are told the water board wants to put up rates by 50% between now and 2030. So add to that Gas and Electric rises, many old people face a tough time
To cope with climate changes 50% on rates, it’s never stopped raining in the north west
Wouldn't take much!
Surely if they wanted a quick fix fair solution they could have taken the benefit away from anyone that was of pensionable age and pays the higher rate of tax?Your in-laws can't retire on a state pension until they are 67 either can they? FWIW I agree that benefits like the fuel allowance should be means tested.
Well, if they are old AND poor they get to keep the fuel moneyI'd like someone to explain just what have they done for poor people other than throw about rumours of a free breakfast for every child.
Don't you mean their "fully costed" manifesto?Do you really believe the 22 billion bollocks? They new full well what the economy was like when they lied in their manifesto
Almost everyone recognises that right though, including the government, which is why inheritance tax isn't 100%. "Giving it to the government to waste" just isn't a serious argument, because you could use that to argue against any tax ever. 3.73% of deaths in the UK resulted in inheritance tax, and the majority of the money raised comes from people who have already given their kids a decent leg up in life. But apparently, that wasn't enough and they need another leg up in their 50s or 60s too. A far bigger injustice is the prospect of ordinary people having to give up their savings and sell their property to pay for their elder care. That's a typical example of the government reneging on its responsibilities, and that's the sort of 'inheritance tax' that I'd rather focus my anger on, rather than something that almost exclusively affects people who can easily afford it.I am one of those hypocrites you refer to. The point is that it is your money that you are leaving and your children you are leaving it to. My view is that if I can't spend then it should at least be my kids that enjoy the fruits of my labour and not as you quite rightly put it "some stranger"
I get the wanting them to stand on their own two feet but surely better to give them a helping hand rather than hand it to the goverment to waste.
Not necessarily or automatically.Well, if they are old AND poor they get to keep the fuel money
Well, if they are old AND poor they get to keep the fuel money
They will have to wait until the coffers are filled after they've robbed whichever group hasn't hidden their loot!What policies have they introduced to help poor people? What are they planning on doing?
They've helped the poor public workers but who else?
:)They will have to wait until the coffers are filled after they've robbed whichever group hasn't hidden their loot!