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[stonerblue]

You're boring me now, don't ask a question if you don't like the answer. The poster was wrong and so were you jumping in. Put me on ignore if your ego is so delicate. I didnt ask people to stick up for Labour like sycophantic simpletons. Own the shit you post or put everyone with a brain cell on ignore.
You and the chuckle brothers can then enjoy your dishonest echo chamber.

Ttfn.

I thought the chuckle bros were chippy and maxwell ?

 

[hilts]

I thought the chuckle bros were chippy and maxwell ?

Just my luck to.break copyright laws, anyhow unfortunately its gone very quickly from the chuckle brothers to the 3 stooges to the quartet of cretins thanks to Vics desperation to be amongst his own kind.

 

[Vic]

It expires correct, doesn't mean anything as they have extended it as they can so your first effort is absolutely pointless. Don't be silly. £3 is cheaper than the average fare, it's not it's been capped lower for some time, pointless again, don't be silly. So Thatcher did something in the 80s pmsl pointless deflection. Don't be silly.

We had the chuckle brothers, mossidewho made it the 3 stooges. Its becoming quite the clan VicTory:-)

Stop being silly.

I'll assume you don't know that reimbursement to bus companies for having £2 fares is based on pre-Covid data. The average fare before the capped fare came in was £2.80. Given the increase in bus running costs (esp. wages), commercial average fares would now be well over £3 (and the taxpayers' subsidy would have to be going up to keep it at £2). The scheme is voluntary - so if bus companies don't feel it's worth it, it would die anyway (some never participated, some only did it because competitors on a route did).

The industry has been anxious about an exit strategy for a scheme originally intended to be for a few months.

What Thatcher did is absolutely relevant. Despite this increase in a capped fare, the principle is still the same. If you want taxpayer-subsidised public transport, it would be silly to vote Tory.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Harris has lifted Starmer's election speech.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

At the end of the day we have the highest public transport prices in Europe. In 2022 when the last survey was done I think out of 36 cities across Europe London brum and Manchester sat 33rd 34th and 35th.
We continually pay more for shitter services.
It's just another regressive step.

Agreed ..... but when your competition is a shite really expensive rail system its a no brainer really

 

[hampshireblue]

That wasn't the only options you have made.that up.

You're right, I'm always "making things up" about the price of bus tickets!

I was merely relaying what an expert in the industry was saying were the options once the present subsidy runs out. I'm sure you'll enlighten us on the correct state of affairs.

 

[Vic]

For the govt? Any fucking option they wanted seems the obvious answer what with them being in charge. Kept it the same decreased it increased it by 1p 2p 3p 4p...................... need one go on,?

And what option would you have recommended? How much would that cost in subsidy compared to other options? Would you have said anything at all if the Tories had just let the whole scheme expire?

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Andy Burnham issued a statement yesterday that the £2 single fare on a bus will remain in Manchester for at least another year.

Bear in mind though in January Manchester buses come under public control for the first time in nearly 30 years and the council are introducing a Oyster Card style travel pass similar to London and those prices haven't been announced yet

 

[M18CTID]

And what option would you have recommended? How much would that cost in subsidy compared to other options? Would you have said anything at all if the Tories had just let the whole scheme expire?

Would he fuck!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I have never been a fan of governments trickle leaking information when it suits them. Shame the new government is doing the same. That said I am concerned that the leaks indicate that this could be a damaging budget for SMEs. We shall see.