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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
hertsblue said:
That will be more corrupt than the game is now. Imagine the 4th placed team 30 points behind us in with a chance of the title due to play offs, and the entire season could be destroyed by the officials in a few play off games and manage the results.
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Another stop City project...the timing of this would be worse than the initial ESL announcement, probably a hoax & worse than the 39th game idea, but if Celtic & Rangers where to come south they can apply for non league football & boost every leagues coffers before touching base in the prem
 
stevemacca said:
www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Archive 1994: The future of football?

Standing Room Only imagines how football might look in the year 2004.
www.bbc.co.uk

This is from the BBC in 1994

'Imagine a world where the very best teams in Europe play each other on a regular basis and viewers pay to watch on TV without regard to the fans who have supported them for decades'

Nah! That could never happen

Newcastle! - well it was 1994, nearly 30 years ago
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Just shows that whoever is a big club now, doesn’t mean they will be in the future.

United used to get average attendances of 11,000 and individual attendances of 4,000 regularly in the 1930s. They once went 37 years without winning a trophy, and even after being established as a big club they went 26 years without winning the league. They only overtook City in the all-time league table for the first time in 1983.
Liverpool were a small Second Division club before the Moores money. They once went 27 years without winning a trophy, and even after being established as a big club went 30 years without winning the league.
Arsenal were just a small Second Division club before the Norris money.
Everton were one of the major names of football in the first 50 years of the sport, yet they’ve not won a trophy for 26 years.
Aston Villa, Sunderland, Blackburn, The Wednesday, Newcastle and Preston were major names of football in the 50 years of the sport, yet there’s only been 6 league titles between them in the last century.
City hold a number of the top two dozen all-time attendances in English football history from back in the early years of Maine Road, yet we’ve had periods of 35 years, 19 years and 33 years without winning a trophy.

Bayern München won one league title from 1903 to 1969.
After winning the first La Liga title in 1929, Barcelona didn’t win another until 1945.

City and Sunderland got similar average attendances in English football’s third tier to what Juve, Milan and Inter get now.

Nottingham Forest are a little club from the East Midlands, playing outside the top flight in England for 100 years of their history, yet they came up and had two great decades.

Gornik Zabrze used to get regular 100,000 attendances yet because of the way football is structured, Polish clubs can’t get to be big clubs.

Naturally, clubs do well, then dip; or come from being nobodies to doing well. It should be interchangeable and fluid.

There are enough cities and well supported clubs in England, and enough big cities and massively supported clubs around Europe to have different “Big 6”s or clubs challenging for honours every few decades, not the same fucking boring clubs changing the rules to make sure they stay big!
 
domalino said:
Pères said 2021 in one of his interviews and the official documents said "as soon as practicabky possible".

They were not waiting until 2024.
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They all resigned their positions at European Club Association. You would absolutely not remove yourself from those positions if you were going to quietly start a league in 23 or 24 or if you were hoping for reforms. Even if you were starting this in 22 you'd wait till the end of the season, and even then you'd have to plan a year without CL football. This was a coup with an immediate consequences. If it feels mad and desperate it's because it is mad and desperate because as your earlier post alluded to some of these clubs are about to go under and the only thing they had in place was an American bank willing to bail them out.
 
I'm Blue said:
Not just the premier league, the FA, Sky, BT, BBC, the media in general and all the rest have all rode this cash cow since it began.
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Greg Dyke and Rick Parry deserve a mention too but I don't think it was a coincidence that across Europe the same thing happened at the exact same time, along with the CL coming along. They(the top-flights we have today and the people behind them) must have all colluded on this idea to create financial powerhouses, giants of the game going at it in the CL.
 
Give me 5 minutes and I could come up with a better format for a ESL. This is the best they could do with six months of planning? Also, I’d have been a lot more proactive about preparing the ground with staff and supporters in terms of why the change is necessary. And I’d have been all over Sky Sports countering the Carragher/Neville narrative with the positive spin to sell the concept. We did none of this, the launch of the biggest change in European football in a generation was half hearted and amateurish. I smell a rat.
 
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