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[Man_City_Loyal]

Yes they’re still in the SL but they’ve suspended it for now.

Looks like they’re either going to need a fire sale or go bust. Happy days.

thought as much, Barcelona’s is due to their voting system isn’t it?

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

The point is that we wouldn't have been aware of the full details until we signed that letter of intent, at which point we probably saw the full contract. And something I have heard is that the picture initially presented was not the one in the contract.

Perez is hardly going to say "Well we didn't really want them but were told they had to be in for us to get the money. But we had no intention of treating them as equals so naturally they fucked off" is he?

Obviously I have no idea what the full contract terms were but we do know there was a proposal to limit wages and net transfers to 55% of income. So if you're not getting the same income as, say, United, your 55% is worth less and straight away you're a second tier club. We also know that the 5 clubs invited each season wouldn't be getting anything like what the founder clubs were promised.

So we get sold a promise of guaranteed media revenue of, say, £350m a year minimum from this, just for media revenue. Plus a similar down-payment. But that only holds good for 2 or 4 years, at which point the real founder clubs can change the formula while we have no say but are bound in by our contract. So we say thanks, but no thanks.

I’m sure the club where well aware (given the history) that the contracts/proposals on the table where more than likely not to our satisfaction before they even read them, that doesn’t mean we couldn’t negotiate, we’d of known our position was a strong one, looking at the timeframe there’s no way that happened. Your hypothesis lends itself to the theory we where the ones to contact Ceferin, (if the contracts where that derisory) I suppose the big question is...... was the motivating factor the contract or the overall proposal?

 

[Mike N]

Got to love the Scousers. Their banners were so professional, clear white lettering on black backgrounds. It’s almost as if they knew about this in advance and got the very best banners available. Compare this to the other demonstrations. White bed sheets, poor grammar or bits of an Amazon cardboard box. And always with a combination of random capital and lower-case letters!

 

[Centurions]

thought as much, Barcelona’s is due to their voting system isn’t it?

Given that they joined without the fans vote I can't see why they'd need it to withdraw.

Edit: Aren't Juventus still (technically) in the ESL as well?

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Haha, how much of a shithouse must you be, ric should release the names of the people that have snook off :)

Steady on. The vast majority were against it, including me, which is enough, but people were free to vote whichever way. As much as we want our club to be on a similar footing to the other clubs (Deloittes valuations etc), this has only, and only will continue to be, due to our expansion overseas and I suspect many of our new support don't have the same emotional pull to English football traditions as the rest of us. I can actually see the draw of avoiding Shakhtar every year.

By the way, there was a short-lived campaign directly after our withdrawal, as is Bluemoon tradition, to scupper the true picture by asking posters to switch their vote No to Yes - for a laugh. I was one of those.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Got to love the Scousers. Their banners were so professional, clear white lettering on black backgrounds. It’s almost as if they knew about this in advance and got the very best banners available. Compare this to the other demonstrations. White bed sheets, poor grammar or bits of an Amazon cardboard box. And always with a combination of random capital and lower-case letters!

They're permanently victim-ready, probably got their own printing presses in their basements or got banners pre-printed up for every eventuality.

 

[Nails]

Why did Soriano/City wait so long to issue an apology? I mean, the apology wasn't exactly a huge, self-flagellating screed that would have taken 10 hours to compose. It was a 30-minute job. @Ric, @tolmie's hairdoo, @BillyShears - any theories?

 

[iwasthere1968]

thought as much, Barcelona’s is due to their voting system isn’t it?

genuine question .. if Barca need a vote to come out why not a vote to go in? or if they still need a vote to go in are they not technically out ?

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

The point is that we wouldn't have been aware of the full details until we signed that letter of intent, at which point we probably saw the full contract. And something I have heard is that the picture initially presented was not the one in the contract.

Perez is hardly going to say "Well we didn't really want them but were told they had to be in for us to get the money. But we had no intention of treating them as equals so naturally they fucked off" is he?

Obviously I have no idea what the full contract terms were but we do know there was a proposal to limit wages and net transfers to 55% of income. So if you're not getting the same income as, say, United, your 55% is worth less and straight away you're a second tier club. We also know that the 5 clubs invited each season wouldn't be getting anything like what the founder clubs were promised.

So we get sold a promise of guaranteed media revenue of, say, £350m a year minimum from this, just for media revenue. Plus a similar down-payment. But that only holds good for 2 or 4 years, at which point the real founder clubs can change the formula while we have no say but are bound in by our contract. So we say thanks, but no thanks.

Even the down payments weren't equal. I've got the full details somewhere but there were tiers within the founding 15. The top 4 or 6 clubs getting by far the biggest chunk :)

 

[Bluechipblue]

genuine question .. if Barca need a vote to come out why not a vote to go in? or if they still need a vote to go in are they not technically out ?

My head's beginning to hurt.8-}