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Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Great to be back in the fold. Well done those bastions of impartial journalism, sky, talksport the bbc etc. Good ol Murdoch, finger on the pulse as ever, it's not like there was a vested interest at stake. Anyway great to be back in the football family. Jumpers for goal posts, millions and millions for grass root footie. I'm sure the likes of the PL and UEFA will have our backs. I'm certain they'll drop their vendettas. As soon as I saw those istree club fans tying banners to their gates I was with them, I knew fan power would win......er something.
From now on I'll be sure to get my public opinion from Gary Neville, Jordan Henderson, Stephen Warnock, Jim White, Gary Lineker, Spit, et al. You just know they have no ulterior motive. Honest as the day is long those lads.
Can't wait to get back into the ground. Rosettes and rattles!
Viva fan power.
Opportunity lost with a knee-jerk reaction and without knowing the full facts? Don't make me laugh. No way we"ll rue this.
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
I'd criticise them.

I'd assumed from the little I'd heard up to now that this was some sort of clever masterplan to torpedo the whole the thing so was feeling quite kind towards them, despite everything that went on. But it seems going in was pure self-interest and, because the money wasn't as much as we thought we were getting or wanted, we came out.
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As regards self-interest, given what they have tried, and are still trying to do to us, I'm in the camp that thinks that we have no friends and should do what's right for us. But I admit that the idealistic football purist in me has been laid to rest by the FFP shenanigans.

You speculate that "because the money wasn't as much as we thought we were getting or wanted, we pulled out". I'd speculate that it was more to do with the terms and conditions in the final draft, ie the small print. Doubtless it will come out in the sportswash.
 
Newman Noggs said:
As regards self-interest, given what they have tried, and are still trying to do to us, I'm in the camp that thinks that we have no friends and should do what's right for us. But I admit that the idealistic football purist in me has been laid to rest by the FFP shenanigans.

You speculate that "because the money wasn't as much as we thought we were getting or wanted, we pulled out". I'd speculate that it was more to do with the terms and conditions in the final draft, ie the small print. Doubtless it will come out in the sportswash.
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I agree with that. I'd say it was money, voting rights and general control issues. Ultimately the risk was probably too great.

I feel the same. The football purist in me has definitely been affected by this, FFP machination, VAR, etc. I watched Wednesday's game and while it was still City, it was like watching a TV drama rather than the club I'm so emotionally invested in.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I agree with that. I'd say it was money, voting rights and general control issues. Ultimately the risk was probably too great.

I feel the same. The football purist in me has definitely been affected by this, FFP machination, VAR, etc. I watched Wednesday's game and while it was still City, it was like watching a TV drama rather than the club I'm so emotionally invested in.
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That captures how it felt for me as well. I'll still watch, but I'm a legacy fan for an entertainment product, and I think that's how I'll start seeing it now.
 
BillyShears said:
Probably because the public apology was the least pressing thing for them when the league began to collapse.

From what I understand Ceferin and City spoke over the weekend prior to the Super League story leaking. We can only speculate as to what was said, but I suspect that if Perez is saying that City weren't committed, and City were talking to UEFA after Agnelli went dark, then we were clearly playing both sides.

So Monday I imagine their focus was politics at UEFA and turning the knife on the ringleaders of the ESL plan. The public statement was always going to be weak unless Khaldoon did a video.
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has this been said by people at the club?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I'd criticise them.

I'd assumed from the little I'd heard up to now that this was some sort of clever masterplan to torpedo the whole the thing so was feeling quite kind towards them, despite everything that went on. But it seems going in was pure self-interest and, because the money wasn't as much as we thought we were getting or wanted, we came out.
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Everything our owners, and every other club owners, do is in pure self-interest, PB. Whether that be financial or public relations. I'm amazed that so many of our fans had the impression that they were just some kind of generous benefactors.

My belief is that they felt that they had no choice but to ensure that they weren't left out of this move when it was painted as a fait accomplis. As soon as they saw the appalling PR, and the fact that Bayern said no, they panicked and cut loose. I've no problem with any of that. The big mistake they made was not seeing the backlash coming and refusing to join in the first place but of course that would have been a massive gamble - a bigger one for City than Bayern who as holders pretty much knew that this could not go ahead without them. Our owner has been sidelined and attacked for so long and from so many places that I can understand that the threat of being outside "the elite" forever pushed him into this.
 
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