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[Metalartin]

Sorry but I'm sick of the bullshit from people trying to remove any nuance because they are upset. I agree it's a bit of a stretch to assume City played the cartel to weed out the snakes(would have been better to say no and let them just go ahead with it). However other people are just as bad with the theory that City colluded with the cartel from the begining because that goes against the timeline of info we were given by the media(who have no love for City).

Setting the thing up, pitching it to your fellow cartel members and then fear mongering the few big clubs(none cartel) who were not part of the negotiations, contract drafting, setup process... into joining at short notice. That's all a damn site worse than being one of those few clubs who joined late out of fear of being left behind by something they were told they couldn't stop. You'd have to be blind not to see the difference.

I suppose, it's not confirmed but there are reports that City didn't have long to decide and were still unsure about it as it was announced, hence City not being part of the initial list of clubs, with some journalists saying City are the only club not to be involved. The balanced outlook isn't deciding how you want to feel about this, cherry picking which reports you want to remember or not and then coming to your conclusion. You take all sides of it and try and deduce the most likely events that took place and the reasons for them.

As for punishments, come back down to earth, just because you're upset it doesn't mean crime has taken place or rules have been broken. These cartel members spent years on this and will have hired lawyers to cover all aspects of it. What has happened is people have a lot of bad will towards these clubs because trust has been broken with the rest of football, which includes their own fans and possibly their sponsors.

 

[Protein Junkie]

I'm hoping we are waiting for the Hollywood movie

I’m sure Peter Jackson has some Orcs left from Lord of the Rings to play the Glazers.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

so 12 clubs can decide they are above everything and everyone and try destroy the structures of the game without consequence?

lads you're on cloud cuckoo land

You're as morally bankrupt as the cunts who dreamed this up if you think this should be excused without punishment

Point missed - which is fair enough, as it was a pretty long post!

My point is who do you think has the moral rightness to punish us exactly?

Because if you say the PL or UEFA, you’re suggesting we bow to a bunch of crooks as morally reprehensible, corrupt and self-serving as the lot we were trying to form a league with.

I’d be all for it if there were just one morally upstanding organisation in amongst this shower of shysters who I thought would use the money for anything other than to line their own pockets.

Look at the last time we had a a fine for failing FFP from UEFA - where did that go? Straight to the other clubs in the CL - so United, Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus got the money. How is that somehow benefitting the good of the game?

Give me an idea on who you think is the morally upstanding entity in all this who should have the right to punish us, and I’ll agree with you.

But don’t tell me it’s the PL or UEFA, as they’re no better than the 12 clubs you want punishing.

 

[Marvin]

No and that’s why I was overjoyed with the CAS decision

but we were becoming as bad as our aggressor with signing up to this

couldn’t care less about other teams but we should know better than most about unfairness

Back in 1980, if an investor came along and pump-primed a rival club like Sheikh Masnour did with Man City you would certainy feel this to be unfair. We followed the Chelski model with a difference. Roman keeps pumping money in. We stopped. We are actually everything the FFP is supposed to be about. Sustainability but most of football would laugh at this.

No all that matters is winning, and absolutely hammering Liverpool and Man Utd into the ground. We had 2 years where Liverpool were plotting to destroy us. Seriously we were close to the edge. We need to remember that always and act accordingly.

 

[burning blue soul]

Yep
An amateur team just got into the French cup semi final. Not that long ago another amateur team, Calais, got to the final.

Still world fricking champions, though, aren't they?
Footballers used to take their false teeth out before playing the last time we called ourselves that.

And anyway, spurs have got to a final this year.... so your point is moot!! ;)

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

I cannot address all your questions but the answer to making clubs more sustainable is to stop paying silly money transfer fees and wages.

Don’t pay £150m and £500k per week for Haaland. Find the next Jamie Vardy for £100k.

Don’t pay £60mill for Mahrez or whatever spare winger we were picking up that pre-season. Give Sancho a good contract and game time.

Be more Dortmund and less Barca.

But this means owners and us fans accepting we will have to fight harder for success. That we cannot have two or more world class players in every position.

Until this unsustainable money madness ends, elite clubs will be forced to prowl the football ocean like starving sharks, desperate for their next meal.

How long does the football industry need to sustain its current, long established financial model before the naysayers stop levelling the throwaway accusation at it that it’s unsustainable ?

 

[Bandofblues]

You forgot one question.

Why does this need a separate thread?

 

[Centurions]

so 12 clubs can decide they are above everything and everyone and try destroy the structures of the game without consequence?

lads you're on cloud cuckoo land

You're as morally bankrupt as the cunts who dreamed this up if you think this should be excused without punishment

"You're as morally bankrupt...", hahaha, get to fuck.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Just seen the apologises from both red yank clubs - what a crock of total bullshit

PR ham at its mature finest

 

[Steve68]

How long does the football industry need to sustain its current, long established financial model before the naysayers stop levelling the throwaway accusation at it that it’s unsustainable ?

How big was our loss this year?