Var debate 2019/20

blue moony said:
Personally think it’s very open to manipulation if the situation arises!

If they have the chance on a close call to make a game or the league more interesting then they will
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Easier or harder to manipulate than a single guy when close calls were always always 50:50 and everyone in here pissed and fucking moaned? (See Liverpool last year, United 2012)
 
SWP's back said:
Given you thought there was ageism in his post, I’m not entirely surprised.
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BosnianBlue said:
Absolutely same thing will happen with football. In 5 years, everybody will get used with VAR and move on. I am fairly sure the big majority of fans going mental about var, tradition, emotion and stuff like that, are older fans
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Perhaps you being younger gives you the ability to read much faster, but maybe missing something in haste.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Not sure why people keep claiming United goals weren’t checked by var. every goal scored is checked they just aren’t all noticed because the majority are done within a second or two.



Just what I read on the bbc article mate. If his words have been taken out of context then fair enough but we’ve seen fans make that claim too so I think my points are still valid in that regard.

Yes the main issue is the length of time it takes, it’s the one and only legitimate claim against it but we’ve seen a marked improvement already, most decisions are done within a few seconds. The ones we were subjected to were on the extreme end, you won’t find tighter decisions made all season and even then they were made a lot quicker than they were in the champs league last season. They still need to be quicker but I trust they will be in time. Nothings every perfect from the start.

With regards to guessing, I don’t believe they are, technology draws the lines not some guy with ms paint open. As we don’t know the finer details of it I accept there may be a margin of error but even accepting they are guessing, did the refs not guess without var? It’s essentially gone from a blind guess to an educated guess at worst in the tightest situations. It’s not perfect but nothing ever is, it’s a big improvement. It would help perception if the league released an in depth video of how the technology works to ease the minds of the doubters and I reckon we will see one before too long.
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Well that is likely to be true: several officials are collectively viewing material than one/two officials viewed instantaneously but at the price of stopping the game. And I want to be able to see the ball hit the net, look at the linesman and know in the moment, not 1-2-3 minutes later.
 
SWP's back said:
Easier or harder to manipulate than a single guy when close calls were always always 50:50 and everyone in here pissed and fucking moaned? (See Liverpool last year, United 2012)
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It’s like the land of the dinosaurs on here. Within six months we’ll be wondering how we ever coped without it. Every player knows when a goal is touch and go for offside and will quickly adapt to VAR, I’m sure most players would agree this is preferable to being robbed by a dodgy refereeing decision.
 
hgblue said:
It’s like the land of the dinosaurs on here. Within six months we’ll be wondering how we ever coped without it. Every player knows when a goal is touch and go for offside and will quickly adapt to VAR, I’m sure most players would agree this is preferable to being robbed by a dodgy refereeing decision.
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The way we play we will get a lot of goals ruled out,we are always close to the line
 
They just need to adjust the interpretation of what is deemed offside and I'm happy with it. A hand, nose, toe or head should not be offside.
 
there is a 3 seconds rule in basketball, when attacking players can't stay in certain area longer than 3 seconds. Maybe some timing offside rule could help football too and bring less controversies.
 
karen7 said:
The way we play we will get a lot of goals ruled out,we are always close to the line
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We also defend with a high line which means it will help at the back and so long as our defenders do their job then there’s no relying on a middle aged guy trying to keep up.

Last season, we could hold a perfect line pushing up, catch a player offside and the flag doesn’t go up as the lino couldn’t watch two things 40 yards apart at the same time. So we’ve done our job, played a great offside, it’s not given and we go a goal down.

I’d always take accuracy over that.
 
SWP's back said:
We also defend with a high line which means it will help at the back and so long as our defenders do their job then there’s no relying on a middle aged guy trying to keep up.
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True but since the nico handball in the CL,Spurs handball now feeling like i can't go mad when we score,i've had enough already,it'll take the fun out of it,i'm going to moan after every game as that would be a waste of energy,it is what it is
 
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