VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[BlueHammer85]

Now you're getting it.

That every set of fans think everything's corrupt when they don't like a decision? I've known that for a long time.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Sweden have got rid of VAR,

 

[Iassel]

Sweden have got rid of VAR,

Sweden never had VAR. It was proposed and the fans said no fucking way

 

[BlueHammer85]

Sweden have got rid of VAR,

They never had it. But interesting development- I’ll always back tech help for refs but would happily sacrifice that if everyone accepted awful officiating- which we had previously.

 

[halfcenturyup]

That every set of fans think everything's corrupt when they don't like a decision? I've known that for a long time.

As Johnson said in that article I still can't get my head around (what was the point?): "Fans want total consistency, but VAR was never intended to produce this. Maybe it was lost in the message from the start;" (my emphasis) "instead, it has exposed just how many of the game's laws are open to interpretation".

The implementation of VAR has been hopeless and the chickens are coming home to roost. Leaving aside the fact that consistency can be improved with training, if it isn't about total consistency, it shouldn't be about total accuracy either. Fans can rightly ask why a goal for a team can be called back for a mm offside, or a foul in the build-up when a penalty or red card offence isn't corrected for the equivalent minimal event.

Personally, I don't have a problem with "clear and obvious", let the referee and his team referee, and have two, five, ten interventions a year for "howlers". But it should be applied to all interventions. That's probably just me, though.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Clear and Obvious is VAR speak for non-definitive. IE judgement.

IT used to be the judgement from a single ref, now its from anyone one of 6 people. And a Match Commander. And pundits if they are audible to the VAR team. Results of that would be chaos....

 

[Ducado]

I think the powers that be will be happy that every fan base thinks it's corrupt, even fans of teams that have benefited enormously from it, its just background noise

I do predict that Forest's card will be well and truly marked now, , should they have spoken up? I don't think so quiet diplomacy might have got them more, most clubs know tis and most clubs including City have had bad experiences with VAR

 

[stonerblue]

That every set of fans think everything's corrupt when they don't like a decision? I've known that for a long time.

Yes it has, but now it is much much worse with fans screaming for var at any perceived injustice

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes it has, but now it is much much worse with fans screaming for var at any perceived injustice

They’d be screaming anyway. It’s the social media way and not limited to football.

 

[BlueHammer85]

They’d be screaming anyway. It’s the social media way and not limited to football.

Correct, VAR has been introduced just at the peak of fuckwit social media society we live in. Which hasn’t helped at all.