Villa Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

Zlatan said:
NoahCity said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Sorry mate but the stats don't lie...Defeats at both Cardiff and Villa and a turgid draw at Stoke..Nothing to do with balance,it's because champs league is his and the clubs priority.
do they realize they need to do well in the league just to be in Champions League?!

There is virtualy no chance that City dont end up in first 4. I would be more worried about Man. United this year.
Getting a little arrogant aren't we?
 
daxman said:
Zlatan said:
NoahCity said:
do they realize they need to do well in the league just to be in Champions League?!

There is virtualy no chance that City dont end up in first 4. I would be more worried about Man. United this year.
Getting a little arrogant aren't we?

Maybe a little. Sory there is very small chance. Ok now.
 
we absolutely battered villa , it reminded me of the sunderland game last season ,villa got lucky with an offside goal (just like sunderland) , a player who has never scored from a free kick in his life , and a complete cock up by vinny and joe for the 3rd , and we didnt take our chances , now lets move on.
 
gmckennasell said:
we absolutely battered villa , it reminded me of the sunderland game last season ,villa got lucky with an offside goal (just like sunderland) , a player who has never scored from a free kick in his life , and a complete cock up by vinny and joe for the 3rd , and we didnt take our chances , now lets move on.

Didn't we say let's move on after Cardiff and stoke as well?
 
bondsman said:
gmckennasell said:
we absolutely battered villa , it reminded me of the sunderland game last season ,villa got lucky with an offside goal (just like sunderland) , a player who has never scored from a free kick in his life , and a complete cock up by vinny and joe for the 3rd , and we didnt take our chances , now lets move on.

Didn't we say let's move on after Cardiff and stoke as well?
What else would you like us to do?
 
Ducado said:
bondsman said:
gmckennasell said:
we absolutely battered villa , it reminded me of the sunderland game last season ,villa got lucky with an offside goal (just like sunderland) , a player who has never scored from a free kick in his life , and a complete cock up by vinny and joe for the 3rd , and we didnt take our chances , now lets move on.

Didn't we say let's move on after Cardiff and stoke as well?
What else would you like us to do?
Start winning away from home; that'd be progress.
 
bondsman said:
gmckennasell said:
we absolutely battered villa , it reminded me of the sunderland game last season ,villa got lucky with an offside goal (just like sunderland) , a player who has never scored from a free kick in his life , and a complete cock up by vinny and joe for the 3rd , and we didnt take our chances , now lets move on.

Didn't we say let's move on after Cardiff and stoke as well?
But the performance is significant. It tells us what we are capable of and how we are likely to do in coming games.

We could quite easily slip up in our next 2 games, and see our confidence take a hit, but we are playing well now. We're scoring goals, creating lots of chances, and we're not conceding many chances...we just had one of those weird games where a team gets to take almost 100% of their chances
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
shadowyu said:
I see everyone panicking. This game is the worst game to panic about. The team played excellent and Villa scored two goals that shouldn't have been (offside and false free kick). We were unlucky. End of.

First Villa goal was offside but the free kick was legit as Nasty caught the Villa player with a clumsy attempt at a tackle.

What can you say about the third other than it was pathetic defending you wouldn't expect to see at any professional level.

Watched the Nasty foul again a couple of times this evening and I'm not convinced that he deliberately tripped the Villa guy: Nasty could just be turning away. He does put his arm out though. Any road up, Ref thought it was a foul and he was close to the incident.
 
Some revealing info from the DM. Sounds like Pellegrini finally lost his temper at the players and who can blame him?

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One-by-one they trooped down the tunnel, anger barely concealed, as requests for post-match comments were brushed aside.

Apart from Vincent Kompany, who gave an interview to the club’s in-house media, no-one stopped to give a post-match reaction.

As one observer in the tunnel said: ‘They’ve just been given a rollicking in there. A big one too.’

It has taken six games and three indifferent performances away from the Etihad Stadium before the Chilean has blown. And, make no mistake, he had every right.

The statistics give a flavour of the visitors’ overwhelming superiority. Sixty-seven per cent of the possession. Twenty-seven shots. Thirteen corners. And still they lost.

Pellegrini’s angst was evident during the game. With Villa struggling to find a way back into the match, 2-1 down in the second-half, Edin Dzeko was dumped on his backside near the manager’s dug-out.

The Bosnia international was taking his time rising from the turf. His manager was gesturing frantically for him to stop feeling sorry for himself and get back in the game.

Pellegrini had perhaps sensed the over-confidence. He is too experienced to know that Villa could not be just brushed aside in front of their own supporters without the security of a two-goal cushion.

It never came. And, as often happens in football, it took a strike with more than a hint of offside about it, a wonderful David Beckham-esque free-kick and an instant of defensive sloppiness to leave Manchester City’s boss fuming.
 
LoveCity said:
Some revealing info from the DM. Sounds like Pellegrini finally lost his temper at the players and who can blame him?

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One-by-one they trooped down the tunnel, anger barely concealed, as requests for post-match comments were brushed aside.

Apart from Vincent Kompany, who gave an interview to the club’s in-house media, no-one stopped to give a post-match reaction.

As one observer in the tunnel said: ‘They’ve just been given a rollicking in there. A big one too.’

It has taken six games and three indifferent performances away from the Etihad Stadium before the Chilean has blown. And, make no mistake, he had every right.

The statistics give a flavour of the visitors’ overwhelming superiority. Sixty-seven per cent of the possession. Twenty-seven shots. Thirteen corners. And still they lost.

Pellegrini’s angst was evident during the game. With Villa struggling to find a way back into the match, 2-1 down in the second-half, Edin Dzeko was dumped on his backside near the manager’s dug-out.

The Bosnia international was taking his time rising from the turf. His manager was gesturing frantically for him to stop feeling sorry for himself and get back in the game.

Pellegrini had perhaps sensed the over-confidence. He is too experienced to know that Villa could not be just brushed aside in front of their own supporters without the security of a two-goal cushion.

It never came. And, as often happens in football, it took a strike with more than a hint of offside about it, a wonderful David Beckham-esque free-kick and an instant of defensive sloppiness to leave Manchester City’s boss fuming.
Good I am glad he did
 
I think many see Pellegrini as a soft touch,however,i reckon,when required,he can be as hard as he needs to be while still retaining the respect of his players.

There is a confident/authorative aura around the man.
 
LoveCity said:
Some revealing info from the DM. Sounds like Pellegrini finally lost his temper at the players and who can blame him?

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One-by-one they trooped down the tunnel, anger barely concealed, as requests for post-match comments were brushed aside.

Apart from Vincent Kompany, who gave an interview to the club’s in-house media, no-one stopped to give a post-match reaction.

As one observer in the tunnel said: ‘They’ve just been given a rollicking in there. A big one too.’

Excellent, they deserved a rocket up their collective arses after that shambles, I have no doubt Pellegrini can be firm enough when he wants to
 
OB1 said:
Watched the Nasty foul again a couple of times this evening and I'm not convinced that he deliberately tripped the Villa guy: Nasty could just be turning away. He does put his arm out though. Any road up, Ref thought it was a foul and he was close to the incident.
Doesn't matter anyway, ref gave it, and they scored it.

It constantly annoys me how many utterly silly/clumsy challenges we put in, in dangerous areas, and we get away with many before anyone jumps on me, but its too many chances, I thought with Barry having gone we'd cut down on them, but we haven't. Its not whether or not its a foul, that will be decided by whatever incompetent idiot is in charge, but if we stopped making these silly/clumsy challenges in dangerous areas, we wouldn't give them a reason to give the free kicks in the first place. The silly ones are the shirt pulling, and hand on the back 'push' where almost any player will go down if they feel contact. Don't give the referee the opportunity to give the foul in the first place, not in important areas such as in front of the goal, or out wide where a decent cross can be put over.
 
cleavers said:
OB1 said:
Watched the Nasty foul again a couple of times this evening and I'm not convinced that he deliberately tripped the Villa guy: Nasty could just be turning away. He does put his arm out though. Any road up, Ref thought it was a foul and he was close to the incident.
Doesn't matter anyway, ref gave it, and they scored it.

It constantly annoys me how many utterly silly/clumsy challenges we put in, in dangerous areas, and we get away with many before anyone jumps on me, but its too many chances, I thought with Barry having gone we'd cut down on them, but we haven't. Its not whether or not its a foul, that will be decided by whatever incompetent idiot is in charge, but if we stopped making these silly/clumsy challenges in dangerous areas, we wouldn't give them a reason to give the free kicks in the first place. The silly ones are the shirt pulling, and hand on the back 'push' where almost any player will go down if they feel contact. Don't give the referee the opportunity to give the foul in the first place, not in important areas such as in front of the goal, or out wide where a decent cross can be put over.

Agree with that.
 
cleavers said:
OB1 said:
Watched the Nasty foul again a couple of times this evening and I'm not convinced that he deliberately tripped the Villa guy: Nasty could just be turning away. He does put his arm out though. Any road up, Ref thought it was a foul and he was close to the incident.
Doesn't matter anyway, ref gave it, and they scored it.

It constantly annoys me how many utterly silly/clumsy challenges we put in, in dangerous areas, and we get away with many before anyone jumps on me, but its too many chances, I thought with Barry having gone we'd cut down on them, but we haven't. Its not whether or not its a foul, that will be decided by whatever incompetent idiot is in charge, but if we stopped making these silly/clumsy challenges in dangerous areas, we wouldn't give them a reason to give the free kicks in the first place. The silly ones are the shirt pulling, and hand on the back 'push' where almost any player will go down if they feel contact. Don't give the referee the opportunity to give the foul in the first place, not in important areas such as in front of the goal, or out wide where a decent cross can be put over.

The other thing that I cant understand is fouling someone when they have their back to goal 30 yards out!
 
FantasyIreland said:
I think many see Pellegrini as a soft touch,however,i reckon,when required,he can be as hard as he needs to be while still retaining the respect of his players.

There is a confident/authorative aura around the man.

He also looks like a guy that you don't want to make angry. Hard to imagine many South American centre backs being a soft touch; although those shots of Dimichelis and his kid at the match make you wonder;-)

Seriously, I'm sure one of his former players indicated that he can dish it out if need be.
 
he'd best be careful

apparently that nasty Mancini bloke could be too autocratic and too forceful in similar situations ;-)
 
cookster said:
pantera said:
cookster said:
4-5-1 with Nasri behind Negredo, ala 2nd half against Bayern pre-season.

Looks very fluid, hardly any top sides play 2 up top.

Negredo against Bayern?ur joking.
He didnt score against man u,didnt score against wigan didnt score against vila.
how do u justify him in a starting line up against Bayern?
Dzeko and Jovetic up front (if aguero not fit)

Where did I say Negredo should start against Bayern? This is Villa post match thread and Aguero wasn't available.

Against Bayern, 4-5-1 with Aguero leading the line.
Hahaha seems like someone wants to start a negredo smattering now !
 

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