West Brom sold out

Kennyblueboy said:
the gold and platinum cards was a master stroke by mcfc everybody i know went for platinum to get double points by paying a extra 50 quid if you have around 4000 you should get gold next season has away tickets seem to go by 6000+ you will never catch up people with high points will always get a ticket if they are going or not and sell it on this site
Similar post to mine mate..........that was the biggest waste of £50 to thousands of people, i couldnt get my head round some doing it..

It will be a closed shop for away tickets for years to come..

Which is fair enough if youve paid your way in the past.
 
Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............

No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .

Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........

Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
 
CHT said:
Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............

No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .

Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........

Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.

I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.

Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.

I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.

The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.
 
cleavers said:
CHT said:
Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............

No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .

Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........

Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.

I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.

Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.

I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.

The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.



My point is about ANY game mate not just the high profile sell out games , Supporters Clubs shouldnt get tickets full stop .<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:57 pm --<br /><br />
cleavers said:
CHT said:
Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............

No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .

Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........

Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence.

I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.

Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.

I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.

The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.




Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
 
cleavers said:
CHT said:
Heres a novel idea ......................If you have the required loyalty points you get a ticket ...............END OF .............

No "Back Door" getting one via a Supporters Club as is clearly happening .

Being a member of Bredbury /Didsbury /Reddish or whichever branch shouldnt give you a better chance of a ticket ..........

Anybody who doesnt think this is happening is in it for self interest or is living in cloud cuckoo land .
I'm not sure how much of this thread you have read, but there are a number of replies in it, pointing out that branches who have asked for even small numbers of tickets, have got about 1/3 of what they asked for. There is mention of 1 branch getting 90 tickets, which actually isn't factual, its speculation, and I very much doubt its anywhere near that, that poster offers no evidence. I know for FACT that the one I'm a member of, asked for less than 15 tickets (and we probably have 10 members with the points it sold out at or more), and we got just 4.

Its boxing day, hardly anyone is working, they've been stuck with family all day the previous day, its little wonder that people want to escape to the football.

I also suspect that the claims that its down to increased corporate tickets are also rubbish for this game, because 1. its not high profile (we're not playing one of the not so big sky 4), and 2. not many companies will be wanting to entertain clients/employees on a cold wet boxing day.

The reasons its sold out are simple, we got a smallish allocation (they only need to give us 10% of capacity), there are a lot more people available to go because its a holiday, its close by, and we are no much more interesting to watch.

What evidence would you want?

There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.

The system is manipulated by large branches, if your branch is legit then great, infact i'd be intrested in joining.

I am kind of a hypocrite as I have benefited from the underhand tactics myself in the past, I would say though that the vast majority of games I have attended as I have had the required amount of loyalty points, just a few I have done something I don't agree with in order to get to the game.

I went to a european away game with a branch this season, I had the requried number of points but I checked my card and no points added!! Why? Some other member got my points and they didn't attend. It has also happened with Bolton & Blackburn!! Why is this?
 
RACHACE said:
What evidence would you want?

There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.
That doesn't mean they are all going through their branch getting tickets.

My point anyway was not having a go at you, it was just pointing out that people should believe the facts rather than speculation.

There are a couple of posts in here that confirm branches are actually getting less tickets, (last year we asked for and got 16 for WBA), but I can only speak for the branch I'm a member of, and we've got less than we've asked for several times this season, when in the past we have almost always got what we asked for.<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:33 pm --<br /><br />
CHT said:
Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
Actually I said less than 15, yes we got 4, and the rest of us have ordered theirs through their own steam. The reason we ask for them from the SC is that we travel, and like to sit together, this no crime.

Manchester City have a supporters club with branches all over the world, and we pay to be members of it, and being able to get tickets from the club is one of the few benefits left, a benefit that itself seems to be diminishing, and once again people on here are claiming that its the supporters clubs fault that tickets have sold out before some have got tickets, when the actual reason is far simpler.

Anyway I'm not posting in this thread again as its pointless, because those who didn't get a ticket just want to blame someone, despite not having the required number of points in the first place, luckily I and my lad have tickets because we both have the required number of points.
 
cleavers said:
RACHACE said:
What evidence would you want?

There will be 3 coaches leaving for West Brom, approx 150 people so 150 tickets with over 6000 loyalty points on their cards.
That doesn't mean they are all going through their branch getting tickets.

My point anyway was not having a go at you, it was just pointing out that people should believe the facts rather than speculation.

There are a couple of posts in here that confirm branches are actually getting less tickets, (last year we asked for and got 16 for WBA), but I can only speak for the branch I'm a member of, and we've got less than we've asked for several times this season, when in the past we have almost always got what we asked for.

-- Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:33 pm --

CHT said:
Your Branch asked for 15 but only an estimated 10 may have the points it sold out on ....you were given 4 you say ...........The 10 could apply under their own steam add them to the 4 you got and suddenly youve got 14 when only 10 are eligible .....Hows that fair ?
Actually I said less than 15, yes we got 4, and the rest of us have ordered theirs through their own steam. The reason we ask for them from the SC is that we travel, and like to sit together, this no crime.

Manchester City have a supporters club with branches all over the world, and we pay to be members of it, and being able to get tickets from the club is one of the few benefits left, a benefit that itself seems to be diminishing, and once again people on here are claiming that its the supporters clubs fault that tickets have sold out before some have got tickets, when the actual reason is far simpler.

Anyway I'm not posting in this thread again as its pointless, because those who didn't get a ticket just want to blame someone, despite not having the required number of points in the first place, luckily I and my lad have tickets because we both have the required number of points.

the reason you dont want to post again in this thread is because you know what CHT has said is true.
What CHT is saying/meant is that if there are 10 members of a branch that have the required points and the branch applies for and receives the 10 tickets (or less as in your case) then that is fine, as long as the points go against those 10 members (or less) and they then are not allowed to purchase another ticket separate. i.e their card is marked on citys computer system as being used/ticket bought.
However, the consensus amongst fans is that the supporters club branch, once tickets ordered/received, are providing supporter numbers of fans without the required points leaving the 10 (or less) other fans with the points able to purchase tickets themselves.
i.e. supporters who are members of branches who wouldn't have been able to purchase a ticket end up getting one, leaving non supporter branch fans with more points disappointed.

Another point, when you apply for tickets, how do you know how many of your members will have the required amount of points? Do the club say what they think it is going to sell out at or do they say what the minimum points total is. For example, for the West Brom game, did the club say to you that for the number of tickets you apply for you must have members with a minimum of 6500 points??

I know you said you wouldn't but please post a reply to confirm or deny the above (or any other supporters branch member who knows how the system works can respond).
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Right. So the club allocate tickets to individuals who have enough points but the individual may not be the one who actually applied for the ticket or want to use it. But they will presumably get the loyalty points for that ticket.

But does that stop that individual for applying for a ticket on their own behalf and would they get turned away if they went to the ticket office and tried to buy a ticket?
Yep. I think it stinks and haven't done so this year as I've managed to get the tickets I wanted but did use it for Blackpool away and a couple of others last season. But its always gone on, its just more noticeable recently as the aways are selling out unlike in past seasons.
 
What I don't understand is if you were to leave a supporters club, would you have no (or very few) loyalty points or do the club register the ticket against the buyer's supporter number?
 
Cleavers, I know that you weren't having a go at me. The branches that I have been involved in have always looked after their own. They also rarely offer travel only meaning that all tickets are obtained through the branch. I have even been turned away as I have obtained my ticket myself but the game then changed to a different date, meaning my train ticket wasn't valid. I asked if I could use the coach and was told no as coach only wasn't something they did.

I have seen wives, girlfriends, family members, fans of european clubs and long lost best mates obtain tickets for some of the biggest games of the season. All because they are in the inner circle of an OSC.

It happens and that's a fact, not specualtion.

I'm not saying that the one you're involved with does it, but the ones I have been involved with do it all the time.
 

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