Why Moyes & Everton have us over a barrel...

like I said. 700 average gate less than Liverpool and look athat their success over the last 30 years. We will piss on their gate this season we are taking 7000 away to Blackburn !
 
samharris said:
May 24, 2009
Rank Team Total Average
1 Manchester United 1,430,776 75,304
2 Arsenal 1,140,755 60,039
3 Newcastle United 926,244 48,749
4 Liverpool 828,610 43,611
5 Manchester City 815,105 42,900
6 Chelsea 790,172 41,588
7 Sunderland 763,198 40,168
8 Aston Villa 756,422 39,811
9 Tottenham Hotspur 682,646 35,928
10 Everton 677,679 35,667
11 West Ham United 650,307 34,226
12 Middlesbrough 540,144 28,428
13 Stoke City 485,888 26,993
14 West Bromwich Albion 490,726 25,827
15 Hull City 471,507 24,816
16 Fulham 462,462 24,340
17 Blackburn Rovers 446,102 23,479
18 Bolton Wanderers 427,228 22,485
19 Portsmouth 376,762 19,829
20 Wigan Athletic 348,656 18,350
English Premier League - Unofficial Average Attendance: 35,650




what cant speak cant lie.
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Looks like we will break the top 4 next season... in attendance terms at least ;)
 
Everton are not a good option for Investment. Why ?
- They need a new ground and to build a decent one in Liverpool would cost £200 million + This has also been the main stumbling block for Liverpool finding new investment.
- Poor support base and demographics in the city ; rapidly declining population.
- As an established top 10 premiership side the current owners will want a sustantial sum to buy the club.
- They have finished in the top 6 for the last few season - its clear to take them forward would take signinificant investment in the squad in addition to the money needed to build the new ground and actually buy the club.
City will be the third best supported side in the league next season. We already have an exceptional stadium in place more than good enough for a top 4 team along with the best home grown youth academy in the country.
Manchester is Englands second city and the only significant draw outside the south. This is why we have received the investment we have and for the reasons mentioned why Everton will never receive significant investment IMO.
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Poor support base, we did'nt exactly fill the stadium last season. If Evertons ground held 48,000, who's to say they wouldn't average more than us.
We will be 3rd best crowd by default, newcastle are in the championship and liverpool have a 43,000 gate capacity.
Manchester is not Englands second city, Birmingham is. Aston Villa are a big club, just as big as us. Come on boys dont let the money thing turn us into a bunch of arrogant twats.
 
Why Moyes & Everton have us over a bar
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In reply they clearly dont - we will move on, sign someone else leaving Everton with an unsettled unhappy player.

I tell you what though Moyes has Lescott over a Barrel - and hes given him a serious shafting no doubt about it !

Birmingham is
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Not any more its not. The numbers dont lie although clearly you would like them to.
 
Bonol said:
Everton are not a good option for Investment. Why ?
- They need a new ground and to build a decent one in Liverpool would cost £200 million + This has also been the main stumbling block for Liverpool finding new investment.
- Poor support base and demographics in the city ; rapidly declining population.
- As an established top 10 premiership side the current owners will want a sustantial sum to buy the club.
- They have finished in the top 6 for the last few season - its clear to take them forward would take signinificant investment in the squad in addition to the money needed to build the new ground and actually buy the club.
City will be the third best supported side in the league next season. We already have an exceptional stadium in place more than good enough for a top 4 team along with the best home grown youth academy in the country.
Manchester is Englands second city and the only significant draw outside the south. This is why we have received the investment we have and for the reasons mentioned why Everton will never receive significant investment IMO.
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Poor support base, we did'nt exactly fill the stadium last season. If Evertons ground held 48,000, who's to say they wouldn't average more than us.
We will be 3rd best crowd by default, newcastle are in the championship and liverpool have a 43,000 gate capacity.
Manchester is not Englands second city, Birmingham is. Aston Villa are a big club, just as big as us. Come on boys dont let the money thing turn us into a bunch of arrogant twats.
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Manchester was voted as Englands second city
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6349501.stm
 
samharris said:
May 24, 2009
Rank Team Total Average
1 Manchester United 1,430,776 75,304
2 Arsenal 1,140,755 60,039
3 Newcastle United 926,244 48,749
4 Liverpool 828,610 43,611
5 Manchester City 815,105 42,900
6 Chelsea 790,172 41,588
7 Sunderland 763,198 40,168
8 Aston Villa 756,422 39,811
9 Tottenham Hotspur 682,646 35,928
10 Everton 677,679 35,667
11 West Ham United 650,307 34,226
12 Middlesbrough 540,144 28,428
13 Stoke City 485,888 26,993
14 West Bromwich Albion 490,726 25,827
15 Hull City 471,507 24,816
16 Fulham 462,462 24,340
17 Blackburn Rovers 446,102 23,479
18 Bolton Wanderers 427,228 22,485
19 Portsmouth 376,762 19,829
20 Wigan Athletic 348,656 18,350
English Premier League - Unofficial Average Attendance: 35,650




what cant speak cant lie.
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Is this what they have printed in your programmes instead of honours ??
 
Bonol said:
Everton are not a good option for Investment. Why ?
- They need a new ground and to build a decent one in Liverpool would cost £200 million + This has also been the main stumbling block for Liverpool finding new investment.
- Poor support base and demographics in the city ; rapidly declining population.
- As an established top 10 premiership side the current owners will want a sustantial sum to buy the club.
- They have finished in the top 6 for the last few season - its clear to take them forward would take signinificant investment in the squad in addition to the money needed to build the new ground and actually buy the club.
City will be the third best supported side in the league next season. We already have an exceptional stadium in place more than good enough for a top 4 team along with the best home grown youth academy in the country.
Manchester is Englands second city and the only significant draw outside the south. This is why we have received the investment we have and for the reasons mentioned why Everton will never receive significant investment IMO.
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Poor support base, we did'nt exactly fill the stadium last season. If Evertons ground held 48,000, who's to say they wouldn't average more than us.
We will be 3rd best crowd by default, newcastle are in the championship and liverpool have a 43,000 gate capacity.
Manchester is not Englands second city, Birmingham is. Aston Villa are a big club, just as big as us. Come on boys dont let the money thing turn us into a bunch of arrogant twats.
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birmingham is second in size only.
manchester is only the fourth biggest city in england, (leeds, london, brum) but is easily second in importance and economy/growth/ etc
we have to be careful not to get arrogant but on the other hand we shouldnt slag our own city off either!
manchester is the second city!!
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6349501.stm
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Dont bother some people want to self hate and fly in the face of facts let them.
Is this what they have printed in your programmes instead of honours ??
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You have won loads recently afterall. Truth hurts, shame you cant accept you are mid table size club at best.
 
alera said:
like I said. 700 average gate less than Liverpool and look athat their success over the last 30 years. We will piss on their gate this season we are taking 7000 away to Blackburn !
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Didn't you take 1 million to Blackburn once ??
 
BlueMooner87 said:
Bonol said:
Poor support base, we did'nt exactly fill the stadium last season. If Evertons ground held 48,000, who's to say they wouldn't average more than us.
We will be 3rd best crowd by default, newcastle are in the championship and liverpool have a 43,000 gate capacity.
Manchester is not Englands second city, Birmingham is. Aston Villa are a big club, just as big as us. Come on boys dont let the money thing turn us into a bunch of arrogant twats.
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Manchester was voted as Englands second city
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6349501.stm
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And you call us lot for celebrating 5th as being "success", do you still have the widest pitch, in the land ???
 
Pabbers said:
alera said:
like I said. 700 average gate less than Liverpool and look athat their success over the last 30 years. We will piss on their gate this season we are taking 7000 away to Blackburn !
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Didn't you take 1 million to Blackburn once ??
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Theres twats....and theres TWATS...!!
 
YOu have won fuck all for years and are a mid table sized club at best what part of that cant you understand ?
 
Pabbers said:
alera said:
like I said. 700 average gate less than Liverpool and look athat their success over the last 30 years. We will piss on their gate this season we are taking 7000 away to Blackburn !
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Didn't you take 1 million to Blackburn once ??
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You are spending too much time on rag forums lad. Got any we haven't heard before?
 
Bonol said:
Poor support base, we did'nt exactly fill the stadium last season. If Evertons ground held 48,000, who's to say they wouldn't average more than us.
We will be 3rd best crowd by default, newcastle are in the championship and liverpool have a 43,000 gate capacity. Aston Villa are a big club, just as big as us.
Come on boys dont let the money thing turn us into a bunch of arrogant twats.
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This is all true. Everton would get well over 40,000 in a new stadium, or at least the right new stadium., I'm not convinced that, even if it gets the go ahead, Kirkby is actually the best move for them, but I admit that I won't be as informed on that as the Evertonians themselves on that, so would defer to their judgement.

Bonol said:
Manchester is not Englands second city, Birmingham is.
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Now here I disagree, though it's not on topic. Birmingham's claim to being the second city rests on population: the metropolitan areas of the West Midlands and Greater Manchester have almost identical populations, while what you might call the Manchester conurbation (i.e. taking account of areas not formally within the metropolitan counties) is bigger than Birmingham's. It just happens that the city boundaries of Manchester itself give an area with a smaller population.

Manchester regularly tops polls for being the second city, is easily England's second city in terms of international recognition and reporting in the interational news media, and in terms of sports, culture, media and general influence, I think we far outstrip Birmingham. It isn't even close.
 
Manchester was voted England second in city in a BBC poll in 2007, but in the same poll it was also voted 3rd city. So in the poll people were leaving out certain citys but placing us either 2nd or 3rd. I was just placing Birmingham 2nd city on population size and not Metropoliten borough size which for us includes Wigan, Bolton ect.

Also what is the definition of a 2nd City. Is their one.
 
Bonol said:
Manchester was voted England second in city in a BBC poll in 2007, but in the same poll it was also voted 3rd city. So in the poll people were leaving out certain citys but placing us either 2nd or 3rd. I was just placing Birmingham 2nd city on population size and not Metropoliten borough size which for us includes Wigan, Bolton ect.

Also what is the definition of a 2nd City. Is their one.
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Birmingham as a city is bigger than Manchester because of historical accidents with the boundaries. There are lots of parts of Greater Manchester that could be considered part of the city of Manchester but aren't. There's no single accepted definition as to what constitutes a second city of a country, but I'd argue that it's based on the significance that a city has on the life of its country, and I believe that, on that factor, Manchester outdoes Birmingham pretty easily.
 
Can I just point out that its Kirkby and not west Kirby.
Also there is 2 offers of investment on the table for Everton.
1) If Kirkby gets the green light and
2)One without Kirkby.
No before you ask why Everton haven't been taking over regardless,it is because the deal they signed with Knowlsley Council and Tesco. Which allowed them to purchase of free land revenue. The free land revenue was giving to Everton on the bases that
1)Goodison Park could not be redelovoped
2)There was nowhere within the city bounderies to build a new stadium.
3)Everton could not be taken over or actively seeking investment or they would automatical breech the agreement.

Now soft arse Kenwright has gone on about investment at the AGM meeting and in the press. So this was brought up in the enquiry and the investigating office recommended that it wasn't wise for the stadium to go ahead. On the grounds of the retail aspect and that everton was activley seeking investment.
As soon as it came about a couple of months ago regarding the take over Kenwright shite and dismissed it because of fear of the penalty that would be brought against the club for this breech of contract. The enquiry is due to end in november.

Anyway enough of that shit and good luck for the coming season. You deserve a change in good fortune.
 
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