Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

[BlueDeadHead]

Compare the saves the other 19 are making v juliet then we can discuss the difference

Why are you calling him Juliet? Is that a pejorative term? Are you saying he plays "like a girl."

 

[BlueDeadHead]

it doesn't matter what they do, you've told me before that you're only concerned about what happens in a City shirt, are you changing that stance now?

She changes her stance daily. Remember when the problem was that Bravo is too short.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

We'll leave it there Karen, you're either purposely dodging my point or you're completely missing it.

Karen is fully capable of doing both.

 

[bondsman]

Thanks for answering the question. You admit that you and Pep have different opinions on Bravo. I will stick with Pep for now.

I have cut most of your post out so we can focus on this one little part. It exemplifies the trouble you have making any sort of cogent argument.

You asked how much I watched Bravo before he came here. The answer is a fair amount actually. He played for Barcelona and a very good Chile team that has been in some important tournaments recently. I get that YOU haven't watched him but don't assume that everyone is as ignorant about other players as you are.

Despite asking the question, you went ahead and made the assumption that I haven't watched him.

Then you accepted your own assumption and went on conclude that all I can base my opinions on is what he has done for City. Which of course is stupid as I have watched quite a bit of him.

As for the other stuff in your rant. I haven't said any of that. I assume based on the above that you simply are having difficulty understanding my point or you don't understand that whether a player is shit or not is not really a binary question. There are a lot of variables that come into play that you seem to have no clue about. Cheers.

Haha binary? Cogent? Using those words doesn't make you sound more intelligent mate. Read my post again. I said all that matters is what he has done for city. That's true I'm a city fan and couldn't give a hoot about what he did for Barca. I also said I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen live which is everyhome game and a fair few aways, and on TV/streams when away from home. When I've watched him, play for city, the team I support, he has been shit. Now did you watch Barca every week when he played? No. Did you watch every Chile game? No. So have you seen a lot off him? AND wtf have his performances for anyone else got to do with how well he has played for City?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Haha binary? Cogent? Using those words doesn't make you sound more intelligent mate. Read my post again. I said all that matters is what he has done for city. That's true I'm a city fan and couldn't give a hoot about what he did for Barca. I also said I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen live which is everyhome game and a fair few aways, and on TV/streams when away from home. When I've watched him, play for city, the team I support, he has been shit. Now did you watch Barca every week when he played? No. Did you watch every Chile game? No. So have you seen a lot off him? AND wtf have his performances for anyone else got to do with how well he has played for City?

Well I am arguing that Bravo is actually a good keeper in the right system so its NOT just what he does at City.

Again, I don't see why you think I don't watch Barca regularly. They are one of the best teams in the world. I watch about 15 games a week; why would Barca not be one of my regulars?

 

[bondsman]

Well I am arguing that Bravo is actually a good keeper in the right system so its NOT just what he does at City.

Again, I don't see why you think I don't watch Barca regularly. They are one of the best teams in the world. I watch about 15 games a week; why would Barca not be one of my regulars?

15 a week? Wow you'd think watching so many you'd be a bit more knowledgable?

 

[BenHest]

if we are talking about football reasons alone then you are right. Hart has his deficiencies but i'd take deficiencies with feet over hands all day long. with him being a goalie like.

Yes! That I know, every keeper has his particular style of play and Pep just let him out by saying he wasn't much of a sweeper keeper. Look what Claudio did when he tried to sweep the ball, errors that ultimately led to goals.

I am not impressed by Claudio. Barcelona was looking to get him off their expense book so they did. I'd still prefer Hart over Claudio.

Talking about Willy Caballero, still a better one than Claudio.

 

[BenHest]

But Hart has made more errors leading to goals than Bravo this season, so why would you have him?

Even the best goalie on their bad days make errors, so will you throw this argument there too? Claudio is just an ordinary keeper, I was shocked when Pep let him go and bought Claudio instead. Bad move for us! I don't like his style of play.

 

[BenHest]

15 a week? Wow you'd think watching so many you'd be a bit more knowledgable?

He certainly thought so while posting it :D LOL

 

[jimharri]

Why are you calling him Juliet? Is that a pejorative term? Are you saying he plays "like a girl."

You're not from the UK, I presume? Or if you are, you're a young 'un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliet_Bravo

 

[kaz7]

You're not from the UK, I presume? Or if you are, you're a young 'un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliet_Bravo

I have explained it several times,i like to use nicknames and shorten names where i can,it's no mystery,thanks for the link though,it makes me feel old lol

 

[mosssideblue]

I believe he should have done better with the first goal Sunday. Is it just coincidence he always seems to react too late or dive the wrong way?

I posted the other day a question and would welcome your view. Vinnies winner against the rags at the swamp (11-12). Good goal or poor keeping?

 

[bondsman]

I posted the other day a question and would welcome your view. Vinnies winner against the rags at the swamp (11-12). Good goal or poor keeping?

Same as his goal vs Southampton to be honest. Good leap, good header but saveable. Not really relevant though as bravo is the only keeper I know where virtually every shot goes in. Every keeper fails to make saves he fails to make any. Do you honestly feel confident when he starts? Will you be as confident of a result if he starts tomorrow? The issue isn't just he has made a mistake or a couple, he literally lets in every half decent effort on target and many not so decent ones like against hull.

 

[mosssideblue]

Same as his goal vs Southampton to be honest. Good leap, good header but saveable. Not really relevant though as bravo is the only keeper I know where virtually every shot goes in. Every keeper fails to make saves he fails to make any. Do you honestly feel confident when he starts? Will you be as confident of a result if he starts tomorrow? The issue isn't just he has made a mistake or a couple, he literally lets in every half decent effort on target and many not so decent ones like against hull.

Yes, I am more than comfortable when he starts. He is far the better pep keeper than Willy, and Willy was dropped recently for two consecutive poor performances, so I see no reason why bravo wont start tomorrow. It's only one or two on here who think he had a poor game on Sunday. Whoever starts though gets my support (even before the kick off)

 

[bondsman]

Yes, I am more than comfortable when he starts. He is far the better pep keeper than Willy, and Willy was dropped recently for two consecutive poor performances, so I see no reason why bravo wont start tomorrow. It's only one or two on here who think he had a poor game on Sunday. Whoever starts though gets my support (even before the kick off)

Fair enough your prerogative to feel that way. I think you will be in a minority but you feel the way you feel.

 

[mosssideblue]

Fair enough your prerogative to feel that way. I think you will be in a minority but you feel the way you feel.

Maybe a minority, maybe not, but we are merely a forum of opinions.

 

[bondsman]

Maybe a minority, maybe not, but we are merely a forum of opinions.

If. If his form continues tomorrow I think this thread will be full of opinions

 

[The Riot Club]

Same as his goal vs Southampton to be honest. Good leap, good header but saveable. Not really relevant though as bravo is the only keeper I know where virtually every shot goes in. Every keeper fails to make saves he fails to make any. Do you honestly feel confident when he starts? Will you be as confident of a result if he starts tomorrow? The issue isn't just he has made a mistake or a couple, he literally lets in every half decent effort on target and many not so decent ones like against hull.

I hate calling out a City player but in my opinion Bravo is shit based on his performances for us this season, and whoever else we sign outfield we will continue to concede too many soft goals if he carries on as our number 1 and doesn't improve his form.

 

[Corky]

I posted the other day a question and would welcome your view. Vinnies winner against the rags at the swamp (11-12). Good goal or poor keeping?

He scored at the home game.

Bravo was a Toys R Us today on a special promotion..










Giving away games!

 

[edinburgh123]

Guarantee one thing - if they get any shot tomorrow that is close and he has to guess/take a chance or any one on one etc they will shoot to his right. Why? Because every time he gets in that position he dives to his left.