Religion

arfurclue said:
Am gonna take a wild guess. That you went to a school in which they gave out gold stars, according to the ability to post gifs? You weren't so good at this, so are
trying to post gifs so as 'to be worthy of their so-called love.' FUCK THAT MATEY...lol...maybe there is another way, right? Shit, matey - you are a Love that is much beyond their words or mine. Question is : do you really want t know this? I dunno, do you?
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tonea2003 said:
1, clearly stating a pecking order making women subordinate to men - an injustice in my eyes
2, some people who apparently tempted(who knows what the tempt is) Christ get destroyed by serpents - a pretty cruel and way over the top way to be punished in any ones book, that's notwithstanding the fear factor in the line which is also cruel
3, a list people or groups of people who wont be allowed into heaven because of certain traits they have - not very tolerant is it? and i thought god loved everyone equally

and this is one of the lighter books of the bible, good job we are not dealing with genesis,exodus, revelations etc
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Thanks gratifying to see someone well versed in what you con
tonea2003 said:
1, clearly stating a pecking order making women subordinate to men - an injustice in my eyes
2, some people who apparently tempted(who knows what the tempt is) Christ get destroyed by serpents - a pretty cruel and way over the top way to be punished in any ones book, that's notwithstanding the fear factor in the line which is also cruel
3, a list people or groups of people who wont be allowed into heaven because of certain traits they have - not very tolerant is it? and i thought god loved everyone equally

and this is one of the lighter books of the bible, good job we are not dealing with genesis,exodus, revelations etc
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tonea2003 said:
1, clearly stating a pecking order making women subordinate to men - an injustice in my eyes
2, some people who apparently tempted(who knows what the tempt is) Christ get destroyed by serpents - a pretty cruel and way over the top way to be punished in any ones book, that's notwithstanding the fear factor in the line which is also cruel
3, a list people or groups of people who wont be allowed into heaven because of certain traits they have - not very tolerant is it? and i thought god loved everyone equally

and this is one of the lighter books of the bible, good job we are not dealing with genesis,exodus, revelations etc
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tonea2003 said:
1, clearly stating a pecking order making women subordinate to men - an injustice in my eyes
2, some people who apparently tempted(who knows what the tempt is) Christ get destroyed by serpents - a pretty cruel and way over the top way to be punished in any ones book, that's notwithstanding the fear factor in the line which is also cruel
3, a list people or groups of people who wont be allowed into heaven because of certain traits they have - not very tolerant is it? and i thought god loved everyone equally

and this is one of the lighter books of the bible, good job we are not dealing with genesis,exodus, revelations etc
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Gratifying you know scripture so well. Some exegesis might not agree with you if you Google each piece of scripture.
 
arfurclue said:
so that'll be a no? Or a clever 'yes'?
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I don't do clever answers, as I'm basically a very lazy poster. I save my effort for work, and come on here to relax. It's why I try my hardest to steer clear of the politics threads, as they're full of very intense people spending a lot of time cutting and pasting from Google - the Trump thread is awash with very, very, very intense posters. So, I'm actually enjoying your posts, but I'm too bone idle to get too involved.

Oh, and I like GIFs!
 
tonea2003 said:
1, clearly stating a pecking order making women subordinate to men - an injustice in my eyes
2, some people who apparently tempted(who knows what the tempt is) Christ get destroyed by serpents - a pretty cruel and way over the top way to be punished in any ones book, that's notwithstanding the fear factor in the line which is also cruel
3, a list people or groups of people who wont be allowed into heaven because of certain traits they have - not very tolerant is it? and i thought god loved everyone equally

and this is one of the lighter books of the bible, good job we are not dealing with genesis,exodus, revelations etc
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Apologies for this : but i actually enjoy that you write like this. is like you come across as someone who instinctively knows how it is to be divinely human.. wow! Beyond this book or that? What a blessing....
 
malg said:
I don't do clever answers, as I'm basically a very lazy poster. I save my effort for work, and come on here to relax. It's why I try my hardest to steer clear of the politics threads, as they're full of very intense people spending a lot of time cutting and pasting from Google - the Trump thread is awash with very, very, very intense posters. So, I'm actually enjoying your posts, but I'm too bone idle to get too involved.

Oh, and I like GIFs!
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Fair doo's and that - apologies if I was a 'touch' aggressive. And I enjoy your gifs...and thank you, I sort of wish I had the gift of being 'bone idle' but I am not so good at this...
 
arfurclue said:
Apologies for this : but i actually enjoy that you write like this. is like you come across as someone who instinctively knows how it is to be divinely human.. wow! Beyond this book or that? What a blessing....
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no mate i'm just human, who loves his footbal and music. trying to live a normal life
 
yep said:
Thanks gratifying to see someone well versed in what you con



Gratifying you know scripture so well. Some exegesis might not agree with you if you Google each piece of scripture.
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they well might, but there will be a hell of a lot who will agree with me

so lets have your interpretation of each line
 
tonea2003 said:
no mate i'm just human, who loves his footbal and music. trying to live a normal life
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And so not so different from me? Even if we might choose to express how we see this differently? Thanks for this - in a way, that is .all that I really asked.
(ps yes, I appreciate that I may not be so gifted at knowing how best to ask other people this but- for better or worse- this just is how I am)...at least in this moment.
 
tonea2003 said:
that don't much sense to me, i'd like that in plain english

from the same book

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. - injustice

Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents - cruelty

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind - intolerance

we can all quote the bible
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1)Does not Paul later say that the husband should love his wife as himself.
2)Do not put God to the test otherwise otherwise he might do something to bring men back to their senses
Numbers 21:6 ►
And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.But do not worry about them as to all God all men are alive. Luke 20:38
3)Christ said to one of the thiefs crucified with him,”Today you will be with me in paradise.” So people who acknowledge him as God and declare their guilt are forgiven. People who say to Christ, “On your bike.” do not want to be in His prescence.
 
yep said:
1)Does not Paul later say that the husband should love his wife as himself.
2)Do not put God to the test otherwise otherwise he might do something to bring men back to their senses
Numbers 21:6 ►
And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.But do not worry about them as to all God all men are alive. Luke 20:38
3)Christ said to one of the thiefs crucified with him,”Today you will be with me in paradise.” So people who acknowledge him as God and declare their guilt are forgiven. People who say to Christ, “On your bike.” do not want to be in His prescence.
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1, so therefore paul contradicts himself, how can you take someone seriously, who doesn't even proof read. never the less is does not lessen the injustice of the original line
2, yeah more cruelty, the bible is full of it - do you think that is ok?
3, yep the fear factor at work again - again the bible is full of threats of eternal damnation if you don't follow - and you think that is ok
 
tonea2003 said:
1, so therefore paul contradicts himself, how can you take someone seriously, who doesn't even proof read. never the less is does not lessen the injustice of the original line
2, yeah more cruelty, the bible is full of it - do you think that is ok?
3, yep the fear factor at work again - again the bible is full of threats of eternal damnation if you don't follow - and you think that is ok
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I agree to differ. Metaphorically speaking, in my opinion,you are like someone who has read a love story but has never had a relationship.
 
yep said:
1)Does not Paul later say that the husband should love his wife as himself.
2)Do not put God to the test otherwise otherwise he might do something to bring men back to their senses
Numbers 21:6 ►
And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.But do not worry about them as to all God all men are alive. Luke 20:38
3)Christ said to one of the thiefs crucified with him,”Today you will be with me in paradise.” So people who acknowledge him as God and declare their guilt are forgiven. People who say to Christ, “On your bike.” do not want to be in His prescence.
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So what about the victims of this person? If it happened, which it didn’t. How is it right that a man who may have caused untold pain to his victims gets off because he accepts Jeezy when he is about to die?

That means serial killing child rapists get away with it just because they find the **** at the end.

The immorality of that is breathtaking. But as I said, it’s all a dark and sordid fiction that was written by men.

How anyone could try to make Jeezy’s acts seem good needs to get their self checked out mentally.

A horrendous culmination to a horrendous book.

But, a book of fiction. A terrible, death and genocide laden book guided by a narcissistic psychopath. Imagine if the utter bastard was actually real?

The most heinous villain ever to be committed to the written word.
 
Magicpole said:
So what about the victims of this person? If it happened, which it didn’t. How is it right that a man who may have caused untold pain to his victims gets off because he accepts Jeezy when he is about to die?

That means serial killing child rapists get away with it just because they find the **** at the end.

The immorality of that is breathtaking. But as I said, it’s all a dark and sordid fiction that was written by men.

How anyone could try to make Jeezy’s acts seem good needs to get their self checked out mentally.

A horrendous culmination to a horrendous book.

But, a book of fiction. A terrible, death and genocide laden book guided by a narcissistic psychopath. Imagine if the utter bastard was actually real?

The most heinous villain ever to be committed to the written word.
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I think Dawkins agrees with you.
 
Magicpole said:
So what about the victims of this person? If it happened, which it didn’t. How is it right that a man who may have caused untold pain to his victims gets off because he accepts Jeezy when he is about to die?

That means serial killing child rapists get away with it just because they find the **** at the end.

The immorality of that is breathtaking. But as I said, it’s all a dark and sordid fiction that was written by men.

How anyone could try to make Jeezy’s acts seem good needs to get their self checked out mentally.

A horrendous culmination to a horrendous book.

But, a book of fiction. A terrible, death and genocide laden book guided by a narcissistic psychopath. Imagine if the utter bastard was actually real?

The most heinous villain ever to be committed to the written word.
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Genuinely, is it worth you going to find professional help so to find a way through this? If nothing else just to check that the above is not actually your own, projected cry for help?
 
yep said:
I agree to differ. Metaphorically speaking, in my opinion,you are like someone who has read a love story but has never had a relationship.
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soundbites and constant deflection tactics

go through each line and tell me where you differ and why if you have the balls to do so
 
Magicpole said:
So what about the victims of this person? If it happened, which it didn’t. How is it right that a man who may have caused untold pain to his victims gets off because he accepts Jeezy when he is about to die?

That means serial killing child rapists get away with it just because they find the **** at the end.

The immorality of that is breathtaking. But as I said, it’s all a dark and sordid fiction that was written by men.

How anyone could try to make Jeezy’s acts seem good needs to get their self checked out mentally.

A horrendous culmination to a horrendous book.

But, a book of fiction. A terrible, death and genocide laden book guided by a narcissistic psychopath. Imagine if the utter bastard was actually real?

The most heinous villain ever to be committed to the written word.
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Yep, 100% how anyone with a sound mind can believe this tripe is beyond me.
 
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