It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[K8babes]

She is all those things but 'oh so quiet' is a pretty rubbish tune. Her legacy is the vocal house banger 'big time sensuality'. An absolute classic of early 90's clubbing.

the whole album which this is from “ debut” is a masterpiece ,Strange title as it wasn’t her debut solo album , as she has a album out when she was 10 years old.

I prefer the sugacubes the band she was lead singer of in the 80s . Great band

 

[kaz7]

so you prefer reading ITK rumors that also may or may not be true.

Did sam have that messi had contacted us about a move ? No he didnt

 

[sir baconface]

We don't really know what's happening but we seem to spend month and months planning for a transfer window and then Pep seems to change his mind and we are left with a more dynamic situation switching targets etc. during the window. Modern transfer deals are incredibly complex and pulling them together in a few weeks is incredibly difficult. I wonder whether we did have Aouar boxed off but when the Messi option became a genuine option we backed off and we are waiting to see whether that goes over the line before making a final decision.

I don’t see any evidence of Pep changing his mind.

Professional negotiators go into negotiations with an agenda, a strategy and fallback options. They don’t show their hand up front, nor do they expect to win concessions first day. They know it can be a war of attrition and they understand how a ticking clock affects the dynamics.

I certainly won’t be assuming anything until the transfer window closes.

 

[K8babes]

Did sam have that messi had contacted us about a move ? No he didnt

but how do you know that to be true ??

 

[Dirty Harry]

How do you pronounce Bartomeu.. in my mind I am saying “BartyMew” ..?

Bartomeow , like what a cat does.

 

[kaz7]

Koulibaly deal seems dead now... Fucking ADL.

Jules Koundé will hopefully be a good signing but I’m still not convinced about his size. I always prefer a bigger centreback to get some aerial and ground presence. A CB should never be pushed over and Koulibaly is a rock.

Koundé is destined to lose certain aerial battles and ground duels because he doesn’t have that big frame. There’s just no way of avoiding that.

I hope he’ll bulk up.

I think we know you have a problem with his height by now

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Do we actually concede that many headers?

I genuinely can't remember the last time we conceded by being outjumped at a corner

 

[Neville Kneville]

Do we actually concede that many headers?

I genuinely can't remember the last time we conceded by being outjumped at a corner

It's not just the first ball being scored though, it's chaos & pressure which ensues from not clearing it early. We have a lot of situations from balls coming in & not being cleared properly, then goals coming from the next phase or the one after. Be it set pieces or open play.

A lot of that would stop though imo, if we weren't so nervous & disorganised in general at the back.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

It's not just the first ball being scored though, it's chaos & pressure which ensues from not clearing it early. We have a lot of situations from balls coming in & not being cleared properly, then goals coming from the next phase. Be it set pieces or open play.

A lot of that would stop though imo, if we weren't so nervous & disorganised in general at the back.

so then it's not height that's the issue then is it?
That's what my point was!

I agree though that our back 4 seems (although maybe they aren't internally) liable to panic, so really the issue is inside us. Any new player whether Kounde or Kaloouby would be an immediate leader in the squad, that sort of stuff can't actually be bought. Laporte or Stones needs to step up.

 

[kaz7]

dipper thread

 

[kaz7]

Solid from Ake

Ake thread

 

[dadnlad]

Do we actually concede that many headers?

I genuinely can't remember the last time we conceded by being outjumped at a corner

i cant remember us out jumping anyone to score from a corner ;)

 

[TheThirdDeano]

i cant remember us out jumping anyone to score from a corner ;)

That's a fucking good point!!

 

[Deleted member 81382]

If he doesn't fancy living in Manchester then I can't see him wanting to live in Liverpool either.

It's inevitable that he'll end up at Real Madrid imo.

 

[mosssideblue]

i cant remember us out jumping anyone to score from a corner ;)

Edin says hello

 

[burning blue soul]

It's not just the first ball being scored though, it's chaos & pressure which ensues from not clearing it early. We have a lot of situations from balls coming in & not being cleared properly, then goals coming from the next phase or the one after. Be it set pieces or open play.

A lot of that would stop though imo, if we weren't so nervous & disorganised in general at the back.

a bit like the wolves goal...

 

[burning blue soul]

If he doesn't fancy living in Manchester then I can't see him wanting to live in Liverpool either.

It's inevitable that he'll end up at Real Madrid imo.

'Liverpool par le mer' sounds a lot better than 'Manchester par le ship canal', though. so i think he would be all for it!! ;)

 

[Centurions]

I work in sales and I want to sell things to you.

And indeed the many armchair negotiators on here, some of who just can't seem to cope with the idea of delayed gratification. I'd be able to retire years early.

I can't promise you City signings Eeyore46, but I absolutely guarantee you'll see a shit ton of transfers next week. It's negotiation 101.

Not to mention the armchair psychologists who seem to know exactly what Pep is thinking based on a press conference. Truly amazing the number of experts in all fields we've got on here.

 

[Centurions]

dipper thread

Fantasy thread.

 

[Bluster]

I don’t see any evidence of Pep changing his mind.

Professional negotiators go into negotiations with an agenda, a strategy and fallback options. They don’t show their hand up front, nor do they expect to win concessions first day. They know it can be a war of attrition and they understand how a ticking clock affects the dynamics.

I certainly won’t be assuming anything until the transfer window closes.

Yes. yes. yes.

I can't believe how naive some people are - 'just pay the money', 'why are we changing our minds', 'give them a deadline and walk away' or 'he's a bast@rd because he won't sell the player for next to nothing'.

We want to pay as little as possible, the player wants as big a wage as possible and the selling club want the maximum fee they can get. We are negotiating with very high stakes and there is a huge degree of brinksmanship. It's no doubt heightened this summer because many clubs must be on the verge of going bust.

As for what we read, if 5% of what is in the press was true we'd end up with 25 new players every summer. Who knows whether it is true, part of the brinksmanship or made up nonsense?

I enjoy reading the speculation but do despair at some of the analysis of our negotiation techniques.