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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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Eric Hitchmough
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Jesus. Not a huge surprise I guess.No, just that it won’t be any time soon. Got the impression it’ll be years rather than months.
What penalties are within their powers though?Not quite. Has to be within their powers. It’s an insanely wide discretion though.
Bluemoonadam
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What worries me is it depends how much they really want us and our recent history gone, we already know the hatred they have towards us.surely expulsion, stripping of titles etc would be the severest of penalties reserved for only the severest of ‘crimes’ ie match fixing, bribery etc. if they deem expulsion a fit punishment for these accusations then what would be the bar for taking bribes or match fixing? ala Juve?
It would be a farce, if it isn’t already
Lavinda Past
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I want a win… not a stalemate.. If at all possible I want the club to be vindicated and the Premier League to be proven to be the bad boys…
I don’t think it will change anybodys perception of the club but I’d be ecstatic
Exactly.
A stalemate is of no use to anyone.
If it transpires that our owners have indeed broken PL rules, we should take our punishment (subject to an appeal if deemed necessary, obviously) and look to move forward.
If the case is not proved however, we should absolutely wipe out the PL. Destroy it from the ground upwards, and take the lead on creating a new league and infrastructure.
ayrshire_blue
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surely expulsion, stripping of titles etc would be the severest of penalties reserved for only the severest of ‘crimes’ ie match fixing, bribery etc. if they deem expulsion a fit punishment for these accusations then what would be the bar for taking bribes or match fixing? ala Juve?
It would be a farce, if it isn’t already
That's a fair point. What we're charged with is extremely serious, but surely lesser than fixing actual matches etc? Given what we won at least on the pitch has been fair and square, you'd like to think that harshest of punishments would be reserved for far worse.
Talking only if anything is actually proven of course.
flb
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We need to be cleared regardless , or it will be rinse and repeat for the next decade plus.No.
All this talk of going nuclear or burning the lot down etc is just over emotional fan talk.
City didn't burn UEFA down and they won't be doing anything like that with the PL. They also won't be going after any other club.
They will just defend themselves well at the panel hearing and that will be that.
Funny - rags weren’t charged when they were too busy to play in the FA cup a few years backAlthough it does look like we're charged with not entering the fa cup ;)
Bald fraud
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Still winds me up to fuck they can go back to 2009 for us but won’t go back to 2014 for the scousers wtf!
mancity2012_eamo
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Which will keep up the narrative of us being guilty because we won’t cooperate with what we deem to be untrustworthy and corrupt.I still feel that a heavy fine, mainly for non-cooperation (similar to CAS), is the most likely outcome.
Our reasoning won’t be reported of course.
Basically didn’t cooperate because we are hiding something.
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About 30 miles down the East Lancs Rd???Here's my naive little blue tinted view of things.....
A few questions. Unless the answer is No to the majority, it is a witch hunt and we should have nothing to answer to:
- Have City added to the success and marketability of the Premier League? I.E. have we helped create value for the League, their Directors, employees, other clubs, etc.?
- Has City's presence been a force for good in the Community?
- Have City generally set an example of how to run a Football Club in a 1st class way?
- Have City been solely or largely responsible for creating an environment in the League where success is impossible without money?
- Has City's way of running the club unfairly affected club staff, young players, coaches or other employees?
- Have City been unethical in their business practices, employment contracts, external Contractor dealings, or in any other way to consistently draw justified criticism?
I could go on and on.
Compared with other big clubs, I don't think any club has contributed more to the excitement of the Premier League, improvements in the Community and forcing other Clubs to look at and improve themselves more than City have.
If we are criminals, where are the victims?
and improvenim
The more time passes, and the more we find out, it is looking increasingly clear that the realistic sanctions are nothing like as severe as originally mooted.
Also, IF we are found guilty of anything it certainly won't be on 100 or more charges, it will be much, much less.
I think rival fans, giddy journalists and pundits will be sorely disappointed with any punishment if any is given.
Bluemoonadam
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I definetly get the impression they are going to drag this out whilst pep is still under contract with us at the very leastHope so, Ric. Did your contact at the club give any indication as to how many months/years they expect this cloud to hang over us?
flb
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It was the lack of publicity that astounded me , but that’s the anything that plays in red arse licking fraternity isn’t it , can you imagine that being us doing that , it’s as bent and corrupt as fuckIt does.
But to this day, ask any City fan and they still don’t understand why City took the money from the Scousers, which effectively closed the case, and gave the FA the excuse they needed no to intervene.
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liverpool didn't really "hack" City, it was a stolen login and password an ex employee took with him to liverpool. Shady as fuck, but not hacking.To the Liverpool hack
People said that before CAS, and it never happened then. I think it’s wishful thinking. At best we might be able to demonstrate that other clubs have been doing some of the things we’re accused of. The notion that we have something completely incendiary seems a little fanciful though.I’m still of the opinion that City have information that could blow the lot up , Ajays post the other day alluded to it
The funny thing is we let them off but it shouldn’t have been up to us, regardless of any payment the premier league should’ve, should charge them.All this shit heightened when the spiegel shit came out, has anyone considered why we let Liverpool off so lightly with the database hack ? Are City about to blow the lot up ? Keeping our powder dry maybe?
They cheated and then payed their way out of it.
We know what would happen the other way round.
Liverpools case - time barred
City’s case - 2009
Clear as fucking day.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Good question! For starters, they can’t hang, flog, imprison, seize assets, freeze bank accounts or destroy property.What penalties are within their powers though?
Prestwich_Blue
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But a criminal act, knowing their access was unauthorised.liverpool didn't really "hack" City, it was a stolen login and password an ex employee took with him to liverpool. Shady as fuck, but not hacking.