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Newcastle (A) | Wed 27th Sept | EFL Cup | Post Match Thread
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If not, we can always just get a dog like Arsenal!
he doing if for 3 years in a row I guess, last night he played for the first time on CB postion for CityFirst half was pretty good. My takings from the game:
- Bobb is ready to make cameos, pick up some experience with the big names but he's already really comfortable.
- Nunez and Doku are really good, ball carrying is on another level there.
- Gvardiol is starting to understand the passes required to break lines.
- Didn't expect Phillips to boss the game, but at the very least he shouldn't be shying away. At times it looks like he moves into positions purposefully to NOT be available. In other teams this is to drag someone out of position, but in the 6 you need to be the free man. Sadly, i don't think he will ever make it here.
- Grealish really struggled, nothing came off at all for him. I think he will be fine, my only worry for him is Doku is really impacting games on the left.
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That ended as I expected it! Soon as we got NUFC away, League Cup, fixture pile up, same starting eleven that Pep usually picks for those games. I think Pep won't be bleating about that one.
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Kovacic and Grealish being back and getting minutes in their legs was the biggest positive for us.
Nobody got injured
It was a competition we simply couldnt win this season with the World Club Cup scheduled in Dec at the same time as the QF, so diving out immediately isnt the worst thing. Plus playing the next rnd at United wouldve meant 2 derbys at Old Trafford in the space of 4 days, and likely a half-arsed team selection from Pep - no thanks
In a game where we were 1 down Pep played the last 20 mins with no recognised striker on the pitch, and Erling sat with a blanket on his knees. That alone tells you how much he wanted to chase the game.
Would love Kalvin to succeed but he simply doesnt have the range of passing we need to play in the pivot role in our system - in his defence few do - but he just doesnt move the ball quick enough, or have the range that Rodri has and Ferna did.
Sergio Gomez simply isnt good enough and never will be. Nice chap Im sure but he needs shifting on in Jan when the new Argentinian left back allegedly arrives.
Kovacic and Grealish being back and getting minutes in their legs was the biggest positive for us.
Nobody got injured
It was a competition we simply couldnt win this season with the World Club Cup scheduled in Dec at the same time as the QF, so diving out immediately isnt the worst thing. Plus playing the next rnd at United wouldve meant 2 derbys at Old Trafford in the space of 4 days, and likely a half-arsed team selection from Pep - no thanks
In a game where we were 1 down Pep played the last 20 mins with no recognised striker on the pitch, and Erling sat with a blanket on his knees. That alone tells you how much he wanted to chase the game.
Would love Kalvin to succeed but he simply doesnt have the range of passing we need to play in the pivot role in our system - in his defence few do - but he just doesnt move the ball quick enough, or have the range that Rodri has and Ferna did.
Sergio Gomez simply isnt good enough and never will be. Nice chap Im sure but he needs shifting on in Jan when the new Argentinian left back allegedly arrives.
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Am I right in thinking that we'd be playing the scum away next round if we'd of won last night. And if that game would of been the day before the fifa club cup then what team could Pep of played ? The EDS! So I'd of rather gone out last night rather than give them cunts another bye like we did about 5 or 6 years ago. I really hope the geordies play a first team and smash the vile bastards.
shevtheblue
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Doing for RBL and doing it for City are two different things. The movements in front require different passing through half spaces, but he's picked it up almost immediately. Laporte understood the tempo the best, but i think Josko will surpass him.he doing if for 3 years in a row I guess, last night he played for the first time on CB postion for City
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glad we went out, to much of a pile up as we know. Just done the super cup, got the world cup soon. If we are to go to wembley in the UCL final and win the prem it would be to much to start hoping for a league cup win. Avoided yet another derby as it turns out as well, feels like we play rags every month !
as for how the game went, the first half was unbelievable, our passing and movement as good as any game, we totally controlled things apart from the near give away towards end of half. Newcastle embarrassingly could not get the ball, was a good run out for some fringe players, Kovacic was my MOTM and good to see him back. We lacked that final ball in the box, had phil or haaland been in it would have been different. But a top first half show for me from us.
second half we kept giving the ball away, looked complacent and Newcastle rushed in to score. After that what a shit game, awful. Ball was out of play, players down injured, taking time on throwing's. Was as bad as first game in second half. Sorry geordies but if that your hope for the season i sympathise.
as for how the game went, the first half was unbelievable, our passing and movement as good as any game, we totally controlled things apart from the near give away towards end of half. Newcastle embarrassingly could not get the ball, was a good run out for some fringe players, Kovacic was my MOTM and good to see him back. We lacked that final ball in the box, had phil or haaland been in it would have been different. But a top first half show for me from us.
second half we kept giving the ball away, looked complacent and Newcastle rushed in to score. After that what a shit game, awful. Ball was out of play, players down injured, taking time on throwing's. Was as bad as first game in second half. Sorry geordies but if that your hope for the season i sympathise.
The way he left "his boyhood club" Everton said everything you need to know about his character.Good to see that I am not on my own with my feelings about Gordon, I have always thought he is a dirty horrible little ……..
No, it’s the next but one round that clashes with the FIFA thingAm I right in thinking that we'd be playing the scum away next round if we'd of won last night. And if that game would of been the day before the fifa club cup then what team could Pep of played ? The EDS! So I'd of rather gone out last night rather than give them cunts another bye like we did about 5 or 6 years ago. I really hope the geordies play a first team and smash the vile bastards.
For me all teams involved in the European competitions should be left out of the league cup.Is participation compulsory? No point wasting time and money if were not taking it seriously.
Many teams didn't enter for the first few years of the competition and it only really took off when the final moved to Wembley (1967?) and when the winners were given a European place (1968 or 69?).
jimmygrimblesboots
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The main plus points were , no injuries , Grealish & Kovacic got some fitness and Bobb & Lewis continued there development also Gomez looked a different player further up the pitch, should we really be surprised how the media have taken this opportunity to take the piss though ? We obliterated English & European football last season and they have been praying for a morsel of redemption , quite sure we will be just as annoying to all and sundry by the end of the season , a couple of more trophies in the bag and the World Club Cup to add to the Champs league , Premier league , FA Cup & Supercup already in the trophy cabinet.
Losing at Newcastle in a third rate trophy is quite palatable and the headlines easily ignored , hope the Barcodes enjoy their day in the sun and the hero worship , they dont get many.
Losing at Newcastle in a third rate trophy is quite palatable and the headlines easily ignored , hope the Barcodes enjoy their day in the sun and the hero worship , they dont get many.
Newcastle need to win a trophy as soon as possible, just like we did when the Sheik first took over, the longer it takes , the harder it will become.Newcastle want this cup. Look at the team they put out. They reached the final last year so they know they can go all the way and, like us when we were taken over, are desperate for that first piece of silverware in decades.
We didn't put out regular first-teamers, the desire wasn't really there, maybe they were concerned about a schedule clash what with the FIFA CWC coming up soon. All I know is that for long periods this City team was still having the better chances, controlled periods of the game, and it's not like we were slaughtered or "embarassed" against lower league opposition. We lost to probably one of the favourites in the competition.
It is what it is, we move on, we are still chasing 4 competitions still.
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glad we lost as I couldn't be arsed with a derby for the next round. It would have meant playing a slightly stronger team and at this stage of the season that would be a disaster
From a Newcastle POV it looked very much like two second strings in the first half and then we brought on two players who arguably the most important to the way we play and you didn't. We upped our intensity, our aggression and our ambition.
It felt huge because of the team we put out in the first half (Midfield was both young and inexperienced, defence had Lascelles and Paul Dummett in it.) and that team beat 'Man City'. I know I kind of ignored the fact that it was a Man City side without De Bruyne, Haaland, Rodri, et al.
It also meant we'd knocked out the very best side in the competition which we hoped would mean an easier route to the final. Of course then we get drawn away to Man Utd (who apparently have had 12 home consecutive home draws in the League Cup? Chances of that happening randomly are 0.02%). Of the 30 possible draws, this has to be the 3rd hardest. I guess we can look forward to Liverpool or Arsenal if we do manage to put away your neighbours.
Anyway, I hope everyone who made it to Newcastle had a good time regardless of the result.
It felt huge because of the team we put out in the first half (Midfield was both young and inexperienced, defence had Lascelles and Paul Dummett in it.) and that team beat 'Man City'. I know I kind of ignored the fact that it was a Man City side without De Bruyne, Haaland, Rodri, et al.
It also meant we'd knocked out the very best side in the competition which we hoped would mean an easier route to the final. Of course then we get drawn away to Man Utd (who apparently have had 12 home consecutive home draws in the League Cup? Chances of that happening randomly are 0.02%). Of the 30 possible draws, this has to be the 3rd hardest. I guess we can look forward to Liverpool or Arsenal if we do manage to put away your neighbours.
Anyway, I hope everyone who made it to Newcastle had a good time regardless of the result.
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Sad to see how many spoilt fans there are on here. The amount we have won in the past few years and after one loss people are saying some of our top level players are 'championship quality' and need to get out of the club. It's a slight overreaction.
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I don't care if I'm the only one, but I'm disappointed we lost, and are out of the cup. I don't see it as a blessing in disguise, or good in the long run, I don't see it as small fry or a cup we are better off not competing for, or any of the other mighty shouts. It is another trophy at the end of the day, one a fair portion of this squad hasn't won yet, gets the hunger on if won at that stage of the season. And more importantly, it is a great chance to play young and squad players and give them experience. So no, I'm not ambivalent about it, never mind happy.
All that said, it is football, Newcastle probably deserved it more than we did in that second half, it is a loss I accept and move on. Hopefully they turn the disappointment into more focus and drive.
Not, you're not alone. I've always respected the League Cup, I've always thought it was a worthwhile trophy. Furthermore, if you look at who wins it, year in, year out, well, it's not the minnows. So that says something, doesn't it?
I'm disappointed, but we played at least one good half of football. And it would have intensely irritated me to go out at the quarter-final stage if we had to play the lads of the EDS.
I'm not happy we lost, but like many of us I actually expected it (see the pre-match vote).
Given our priorities, our small squad and our injuries its not the worst game to lose. And if you are going to go out of a cup the earlier the better.
Good luck to the Barcodes and hope they go on to win it.
On to the weekend, which is much more important
Given our priorities, our small squad and our injuries its not the worst game to lose. And if you are going to go out of a cup the earlier the better.
Good luck to the Barcodes and hope they go on to win it.
On to the weekend, which is much more important